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Old 02-06-2008, 02:19 PM
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It's a free article, it's a shockingly positive, saying KW should be commended for what he's trying to do.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=7112
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:25 PM
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This improved roster remains one top-tier starting pitcher shy of hanging with the top two teams in the division. They likely donít have the prospects left to trade for that guy, but itís the one move they could make that would change the discussion.
Sounds like the general consensus around here - hopefully one of the back 3 can step up and make it happen.
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:26 PM
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So if BP doesn't know anything about real baseball, as has been made clear to me many times on WSI, and they like the moves the Sox made this offseason, should I assume then that KW did a terrible job?
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:30 PM
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After all the over-reaction this winter over potential free-agents, it's good to see this and other more level-headed and realistic assessments of the team.
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:51 PM
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That was a pretty well-balanced piece. It wasn't completely sold on the Tigers and had reservations about the Indians lack of moves. Also, makes a really good argument that the Garland deal was a positive. One more starter is still a possibility before 3/31, so the major criticism from this article might be addressed yet.
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:58 PM
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The one thing that makes you go hmmm about Cleveland is that they're bringing back the exact same team from a year ago. That's seldom a good thing and most often a bad thing. Of course we'll see how that pans out.

With Detroit, their pitching has a wide variance on paper. They could be very good or they could lose a lot of games 8-6.

With us, same as Detroit but probably with a better bullpen and less of an offense.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:00 PM
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Wow. An aritcle not harping on the FA's that didn't sign here? An objective article talking about the improvements that were made? I'm shocked!
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:01 PM
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Wow. An aritcle not harping on the FA's that didn't sign here? An objective article talking about the improvements that were made? I'm shocked!
Probably first and last.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:04 PM
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So if BP doesn't know anything about real baseball, as has been made clear to me many times on WSI, and they like the moves the Sox made this offseason, should I assume then that KW did a terrible job?
Some of it's b.s., this one seems pretty fair.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:13 PM
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:15 PM
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So if BP doesn't know anything about real baseball, as has been made clear to me many times on WSI, and they like the moves the Sox made this offseason, should I assume then that KW did a terrible job?
Yes, this time BP is spot on and finally have an objective review of the ballclub.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:24 PM
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It's possible that some people there know what they're talking about. It's as certain as the sunrise that some of them know a lot more than some people here.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:26 PM
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So if BP doesn't know anything about real baseball, as has been made clear to me many times on WSI, and they like the moves the Sox made this offseason, should I assume then that KW did a terrible job?
No, you can instead assume the null hypothesis (of no correlation between BP analysis and reality) has not been rejected.

In other words, they might be right and they might be wrong, sort of like flipping a coin over and over.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:28 PM
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:45 PM
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The one thing that makes you go hmmm about Cleveland is that they're bringing back the exact same team from a year ago. That's seldom a good thing and most often a bad thing. Of course we'll see how that pans out.

With Detroit, their pitching has a wide variance on paper. They could be very good or they could lose a lot of games 8-6.

With us, same as Detroit but probably with a better bullpen and less of an offense.
I agree with the Sox/Tigers comparison. I also agree with the 2007/2008 Indians team being the EXACT SAME. Just look at us in 2006. Hell, people thought that we would be better and we placed third. We did win 90 games, though. It was still LESS than we won in 2005 and we were supposed to be BETTER.
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