Freddy Garcia traded to the Phillies

[oeo]

Originally Posted by SABRSox

Well, I like getting Gio back. Floyd, either he's bait for another deal (Baldelli?) or Coop's got the biggest reclamation project of his career on his hands.

The guy will only be 24 when the season starts. It's not like he's a 35 year old journeyman.

[samram]

From Mark Gonzalez's story:

Before the deal was finalized, Sox general manager Ken Williams intimated he might have to make a deal soon because of the rapidly changing free agent market that included the free agent signings of pitchers Jason Schmidt and Ted Lilly.

Odd. I would think the longer he waited, the better.

[JRIG]

Originally Posted by Madvora

Freddy ended the year with getting close to throwing two perfect games. We couldn't do better than this???

Maybe teams remember all those starts in July and August when he was giving up 12 hits in 5 innings.

[BeviBall!]

Reminds me of when we traded Lee. People had no idea, then we got AJ and Duque and it all made sense. Patience people... this will be flipped to another team.

[Bill Naharodny]

Originally Posted by Jjav829

Well going with the Baldelli theory, if that is Kenny's intention, the Phils wouldn't really have as much interest in Baldelli. They need the starting pitching more.

And Tampa, by most but not all accounts, wants young pitching, not expensive Garcia-type pitching. But I'll believe we're trading with TB when I see it.

[Baby Fisk]

I'm gonna hurl.

[OzzyTrain]

Rowand adds chemisty , if anyone listens to espn in the mornings the rumor was going around again that we are talking about getting Rowand.

[infohawk]

Originally Posted by whitesoxfan

Why did we do this???

Well, it is Wednesday.

[Lprof]

Originally Posted by pagansoxfan

i think we coulda done better than a prospect and a guy who was 4-3 with a 7.29 era. horrible trade!

There HAS to be another deal about to be made, though it is not clear to me what it could be. As is, this is the worst deal made since Lee Smith was traded by the Cubs to Boston for Al Nipper and Calvin Schiraldi. Did Kenny stop taking his medicine, or something?

[Palehose13]

From rotoworld:

ESPN's Jayson Stark says the Phillies have acquired Freddy Garcia from the White Sox for Gio Gonzalez and Gavin Floyd.

No Aaron Rowand? Gonzalez was a White Sox prospect until a year ago, when he was sent to the Phillies in the Jim Thome deal. Gonzalez is probably one of the 30-35 best pitching prospects in baseball, but Floyd doesn't have a lot of value at the moment and we're stunned that this is the best the White Sox could do for Garcia. Dec. 6 - 10:32 pm et

[jsinaiko]

Originally Posted by Bill Naharodny

Salary dump. No matter what you may think about the market for pitchers, you'd have to say that -- despite everything the franchise has accomplished during the past 2 years -- we're still in the land of salary dump. And that's pretty disappointing.

Unless, of course, something else is planned.

He's GOTTA have something else in mind - this is an obvious salary dump - it opens up $10 million. So they must have something else in mind.

I'm still hoping for a Michael Young deal, or maybe Vernon Wells or Baldelli.

I'm not unhappy that they didn't get Rowand.

[samram]

Originally Posted by OzzyTrain

Rowand adds chemisty , if anyone listens to espn in the mornings the rumor was going around again that we are talking about getting Rowand.

Rowand is not in the deal.

[credefan24]

I'm going to reserve judgment on this trade until later. Kenny has proven that he knows what he's doing, and I think he deserves some slack. I mean, free agent signings this off season are out of this world. I just heard a bunch of morons on the North Side of Chicago paid Ted Lilly 40 Million dollars.
More has to come, I think.

[Hagan]

Originally Posted by Harry Potter

All you bandwagoners, this is YOUR EXIT

questioning a move doesnt mean you hate a team. It just means that you do not agree with a move. It is just an opinion and i hope everyone has one or the world would be a very bland place.

[sox1970]

I'm going to take the opposing view here--I think this trade could work out very well in the longterm. KW is loading up on pitching the organization did not have. Gio is a very talented lefty and only 21 next season. He has time to develop. Floyd could be another Thornton project. I'm keeping an open mind about this. I'm waiting to judge this team until pitchers and catchers report.