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Old 09-12-2006, 06:01 AM
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Default Figgins for Crede trade???

According to the LA Daily News


The Chicago White Sox, who are in town this week, could be a trade partner since they likely will be shopping for a center fielder, left fielder and shortstop this winter.
White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen is on record as saying he is a fan of Figgins. Before Monday's game, Guillen said the team will be on the market for speed, a sign that arbitration-eligible left fielder Scott Podsednik likely won't be tendered a contract this offseason. Figgins could be part of a package to land White Sox third baseman Joe Crede, who is arbitration eligible after this season and is in the middle of a breakout season after a standout postseason. White Sox general manager Ken Williams has a tenuous relationship with Scott Boras
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:09 AM
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Booo I dont want to hear such a thing! No getting rid of Crede!
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:21 AM
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Figgins, a more versatile and slightly faster Scott Podsednik? No thanks. Their defensive stats are pretty similar, as well. Let's say the stats don't tell the whole story and he's a marginally better left-fielder than Pods (surely he's not better defensively than Anderson), it's not worth the drop-off in defense between Fields and Crede. On the Anderson tip, he's got a lot more experience, but is only a touch better than Anderson offensively. Aside from the steals, his and Anderson's lines are very similar this year.
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.229 .299 .361 .660
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:53 AM
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I'm sorry, when did Figgens change his name to Carl Crawford?

Joe is a no go to another team.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:02 AM
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Figgins and Scott Shields I might actually consider. Figgins for Joe? C'mon.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:18 AM
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Figgins and Scott Shields I might actually consider. Figgins for Joe? C'mon.
Exactly.

He's not better, or cheaper, is barely younger, and represents no upside other than marginally better legs. In fact, as I think about it, I'd rather see us use a prospect for something better or not at all.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:25 AM
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Good god, this bull**** is starting already?

Can't this wait until the offseason?
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:30 AM
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This blurb makes us sound like the Pirates: great young player has a solid season, nears arbitration; therefore, it is time to trade.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:15 AM
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The writer does not cite a source for this. His assertions are speculation.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:18 AM
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Apparently the writer fell for the 2d oldest trick in the book. Hear the name "Boras" and think "Oh, can't stay with the White Sox". Ignore completely the fact that Joe's only arbitration eligible through 2008 (a process not designed to take maximum advantage of Bora$$ lying "techniques"), or his own comments that he'd find new representation if he thought it would help him stay at a good price.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:34 AM
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Agree with Flight#24.

Also, if Crede gets dealt, it won't be to a team in the AL Central. Kenny Williams is not a stupid man.

(I don't see Crede getting traded at all; I think he's going to be another Paul Konerko and stay most or all of his career with one franchise.)
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:46 AM
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Also, if Crede gets dealt, it won't be to a team in the AL Central. Kenny Williams is not a stupid man.
Umm, is Anaheim in the AL Central?
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:57 AM
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Umm, LAAAAAAAA would be all over that trade. More like Owens and Tracey for Figgins, nothing more.

I'd rather see KW aim higher. Personally I'd rather sell the farm for Crawford if Tampa would be willing, which they probably won't be. I'd trade Brandon and a midlevel prospect or two for him in a heartbeat.

BTW, anyone in favor of a deal for Figgins would be just as pissed at him as they are with Pods rght now. Both have under performed and if it came down to Figgins or nothing, I'd stick with Pods and assume this is an off year for him.
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:05 AM
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Wow reading is a skill people. Regardless of the likelihood of anything happening the writer did say figgins would be part of a PACKAGE to land Crede. Figgins and 2 solid pitchers in return could land crede if you want to speculate.

You get the desired pitching and restock the pen and minors or maybe even a starter.

You dump the risk of crede's back.

You dump the risk of borass.

You upgrade over podsednik and give yourself outfield flexibility. I'd say keep Anderson in center.

You have young 3b's in the system that the team likes to fill crede's position.


Now all this is speculation as well but if Crede's worth is high enough to get figgins and 2 solid pitchers I think it's something Kenny will be willing to listen to.
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:17 AM
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Umm, is Anaheim in the AL Central?
Oops-- sorry.

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