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Old 09-11-2006, 03:10 PM
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My opinion, and this is in my time as a fan, so feel free to add more:

1. Ozzie - Body of work says it all. Only championship in my lifetime.
2. LaRussa - Won a division in '83. Somewhat competitive the other years.
3. Lamont - Won a division, but underachieved other seasons.
4. Torborg - not enough work to go any higher. Got alot out of a weak '90 team.
5. Manuel - see Lamont
6. Fregosi - terrible teams. Not entirely his fault, but never overachieved
7. Bevington - idiot
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:14 PM
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1. Guillen - world championship.

2. Torborg - not sure why things soured, he seemed pretty solid; maybe one of the amateur Sox historians could elaborate.

3. Lamont/LaRussa/Manuel - playoffs, but couldn't win a championship.

4. Bevington/Fregosi - idiots.
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:00 PM
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1. Chuck Tanner
2. Ozzie Guillen
3. Bob Lemon
4. Jeff Torborg
5. Gene Lamont
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:09 PM
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1. Chuck Tanner
2. Ozzie Guillen
3. Bob Lemon
4. Jeff Torborg
5. Gene Lamont
What no love for Don Kessinger?
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:09 PM
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1. Guillen - world championship.

2. Torborg - not sure why things soured, he seemed pretty solid; maybe one of the amateur Sox historians could elaborate.

3. Lamont/LaRussa/Manuel - playoffs, but couldn't win a championship.

4. Bevington/Fregosi - idiots.
torborg left to manage the mets, and get a lot of money to do so
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:12 PM
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here's my breakdown for the managers i have seen in my 15 or so years of being a fan:
ozzie - insane, but he DID win a ws for us....
manuel - idiot, especially from the 2nd half of 2000-on
bevington - ****ing idiot
lamont - close, but no cigar
torborg - love him for 1990, but he should have stayed
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:21 PM
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1. Fielder Jones - world championship over Cubs

2. Pants Rowland - world championship

3. Ozzie Guillen - world championship

4. Kid Gleason - AL championship, clueless about crooked players

5. Al Lopez - AL championship, bad luck against tough Dodgers and their lame "ballpark"
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:21 PM
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1. Guillen - world championship.

2. Torborg - not sure why things soured, he seemed pretty solid; maybe one of the amateur Sox historians could elaborate.

3. Lamont/LaRussa/Manuel - playoffs, but couldn't win a championship.

4. Bevington/Fregosi - idiots.
Am I reading this correctly, you rate Manuel equal to LaRussa? Manuel was horrible, he will never get another managerial job again. Period. LaRussa will always find work. What does that tell ya?
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:24 PM
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1) Ozzie - World Series. 'Nuff said.

2) La Russa - Headed the "Winning Ugly" campaign. Hawk shouldn't have ran him out of town.

3) Lamont - Decent manager who won us a division crown.

4) Torborg - Mananger of the Year in '90.

5) Manuel - Won division for us in 2000, but I'm ranking him lower because of his idiocy.

6) Bevington - Any questions?

Sorry if I forgot any.
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:35 PM
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1. Ozzie - It's hard to argue with a World Championship
2. LaRussa - Has proven to be an excellent manager. Learned his trade running the Sox.
3. Tanner - Brought the Sox out of the desert in the early 70's. Mananged the first White Sox teams I rooted for including that great '72 team.
4. Lamont - I liked him. He did a lot with a good, but not great team.
5. Torborg - It is close between him and Lamont, but Lamont got to the post-season.
6. Manuel - I'm not as down on Manuel as most, but he certainly belongs below the rest.
7. Fregosi - Why?
8. Bevington - A complete and utter disaster.

I know there are many more that I left off. Bob Lemon would probably fall in the Manuel/Torborg area. Wasn't Paul Richards the Sox manager for awhile in the mid 70's? Don Kessinger, Larry Doby am I missing anyone since 1972?
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:38 PM
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1) Ozzie - World Series. 'Nuff said.

2) La Russa - Headed the "Winning Ugly" campaign. Hawk shouldn't have ran him out of town.

3) Lamont - Decent manager who won us a division crown.

4) Torborg - Mananger of the Year in '90.

5) Manuel - Won division for us in 2000, but I'm ranking him lower because of his idiocy.

6) Bevington - Any questions?

Sorry if I forgot any.
My order also, with the exception that I would flip Torborg and Lamont, and say a few more unkind words about Bevington, but I value my WSI membership.
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:43 PM
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i love this thread... ozzie guillen doesn't hold a candle to tony larussa or chuck tanner as a manager and never will, world series, or no world series. some teams are destined to win, the 2005 white sox was one of those teams,and no one is happier about that than me.
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:48 PM
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i love this thread... ozzie guillen doesn't hold a candle to tony larussa or chuck tanner as a manager and never will, world series, or no world series. some teams are destined to win, the 2005 white sox was one of those teams,and no one is happier about that than me.

I'm a bit confused. What would you say that a good manager is? Would it be about winning it all? I guess not...
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:51 PM
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bob brenley great manager? why isn't he managing instead of announcing for a last place team? so, under your estimation, results, in every instance, dictates how good or poor you are? very, very naive.
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:57 PM
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1. Al Lopez, greatest handler of pitchers ever.
2. Tony Larussa, should still be managing the Sox.
3. Chuck Tanner, took a team that won 56 games in 1970 to a great pennant race in 72.
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