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Old 07-07-2006, 01:57 PM
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Hey guys, just like to get some opinions on a possible offseason trade. Since Javy has been pretty ****ty this year and we've got Fingernails on a blackboard chomping at the bit to come up, what do you think of a possible trade for Carl Crawford in the offseason? Tampa has made it apparant that they want at least two pitchers for him. Well, Javy could be one, another one or two minor leaguers would be WELL worth it in my opinion. The guy's signed through like 2010 on a VERY cheap salary...

I'd think it's safe to say that Pods really blows at doing what he's supposed to do as a great leadoff hitter (basestealing WAY down, defense down, offense down, etc, etc) and his contract is up at the end of the year, so why not? I think the only thing that could keep it from happening would be javy's big salary. What do you guys think?
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Old 07-07-2006, 01:59 PM
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I'd go for it simply because I could then get Crawford (my last name)on the back of my jersey. However I do like Pods, and it would be sad to see him go if that were the case.
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Old 07-07-2006, 01:59 PM
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Pods "blows" at what he is doing? His average is on par from last year and so is his OBP. He had an unbelievable streak of SB's last year but he is still near the top of MLB this season.

And no, Tampa isn't going to take Vasquez's salary.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:04 PM
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I am a HUGE fan of Carl Crawford.. he is arguably one of the most all-around talented players in the game... he plays a real good outfield, he's fast as hell, and he hits for both average and power...

I am not sure what it would take to get him into a WHITE SOX uniform, but I think he would be a perfect replacement for PODS... It is no secret that Pods' time in a Sox uniform is winding down... Heck, his MLB career might be winding down....

I love Pods and he will always hold a special place in my heart along with the rest of the 2005 team, but I think that it'll be time to move on in the offseason...
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:06 PM
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McCarthy is very important in the bullpen. Worst case scenario, Javy will probably float around .500 and eat another 90 - 100 innings in the 2nd half.

Also, Javy will be useful out of the pen come the playoffs because he is a good strike out pitcher.

The Sox don't need Carl Crawford.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:07 PM
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Pods "blows" at what he is doing? His average is on par from last year and so is his OBP. He had an unbelievable streak of SB's last year but he is still near the top of MLB this season.

And no, Tampa isn't going to take Vasquez's salary.
Pods doesn't "blow", but I would take Crawford as a replacement in a heartbeat. Kenny already showed this past offseason, that he always wants to improve the team. That would be a hell of a replacement and make the team better offensively and defensively.

I'll keep Crawford in my dreams, though.

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McCarthy is very important in the bullpen. Worst case scenario, Javy will probably float around .500 and eat another 90 - 100 innings in the 2nd half.

Also, Javy will be useful out of the pen come the playoffs because he is a good strike out pitcher.

The Sox don't need Carl Crawford.
He was talking about the offseason. Eventually Pods is going to need to be replaced, and if you can do it with a young star like Crawford, that would be amazing.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:09 PM
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Oh I love Pods too, but maybe blows is a harsh word. But I'd just be upset if we didn't go after someone else and gave him an extension...
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:09 PM
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Think they'd take Cliffy for him???
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:11 PM
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Hey guys, just like to get some opinions on a possible offseason trade. Since Javy has been pretty ****ty this year and we've got Fingernails on a blackboard chomping at the bit to come up, what do you think of a possible trade for Carl Crawford in the offseason? Tampa has made it apparant that they want at least two pitchers for him. Well, Javy could be one, another one or two minor leaguers would be WELL worth it in my opinion. The guy's signed through like 2010 on a VERY cheap salary...

I'd think it's safe to say that Pods really blows at doing what he's supposed to do as a great leadoff hitter (basestealing WAY down, defense down, offense down, etc, etc) and his contract is up at the end of the year, so why not? I think the only thing that could keep it from happening would be javy's big salary. What do you guys think?
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:11 PM
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Pods doesn't "blow", but I would take Crawford as a replacement in a heartbeat. Kenny already showed this past offseason, that he always wants to improve the team. That would be a hell of a replacement and make the team better offensively and defensively.

I'll keep Crawford in my dreams, though.

He was talking about the offseason. Eventually Pods is going to need to be replaced, and if you can do it with a young star like Crawford, that would be amazing.
My bad, didn't see the offseason part.

Anyhow, if Crawford is on the market someone will put together a hell of a better package than Vazquez + a prospect.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:11 PM
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I just think it's a good way to improve the club in two ways. Vazquez hasn't really been much of an incredible innings eater this year for us....I"d say his average is maybe 5 innings per start (in the last month or so anyway)...that's not eating anything but...well, nothing good. And getting out of his bad starts and improve LF at the same time would really help. Maybe Javy will improve...but I really don't know.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:12 PM
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I know crawford is good but right now Pods is just fine as a lead-off hitter. He takes a ton of pitches, has come up with some clutch 2-out hits, is running better and better as he recovers from surgery, and is showing a little more power this year.

Seriously do you think that Tampa would take on Javy's 16 million dollar deal or even 8 million if the sox throw in the cash they got from the d-backs?

No fricking way. And our centerfielder is coming on strong also. That catch by Brian last nite was right up there with his crash into the wall catch as his best all year. I thought there was no way he gets to it last nite but he just flows over the grass like a poor man's Joe Dimaggio.

If pods finishes strong this season - I hope they re-sign him. He is the best lead-off hitter in a sox uni since rudy law or one dog. maybe better than both.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:17 PM
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My bad, didn't see the offseason part.

Anyhow, if Crawford is on the market someone will put together a hell of a better package than Vazquez + a prospect.
Yeah, I'm not defending his deal. I still think Vazquez is going to turn his season around. Anytime I hear Crawford, though, I want him on the Sox.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:17 PM
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Vazquez hasn't really been much of an incredible innings eater this year for us....I"d say his average is maybe 5 innings per start (in the last month or so anyway)...that's not eating anything but...well, nothing good.
He's averaging a little over 6 per start. He's gone less than 6 three times. Never less than 5.1 which was his last start.

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I agree he's been disappointing, especially since we all expected Cooper to wave his magic wand like he did with Jose. But don't totally discount what the guy has done, he ain't Cliff.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:18 PM
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Javy may be crappy, but he's not that crappy. Cripes, he's a fifth starter with a 9-4 record and a 5.15 ERA...I repeat, a #5 starter. I would have loved to have had a Javy Vazquez in 2004, when the 5th slot was pretty much a guaranteed loss. He's almost matching all other starters on the staff except Buerhle in innings pitched.

Pods doesn't need to steal as many bases this year. Reason? Iguchi-Thome-Konerko-Dye....Pierzynski-Crede-Uribe...
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