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Old 05-11-2006, 08:42 AM
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Default Bobby Jenks' Delivery Flaw

Jenks again was lit up like a christmas tree last nite. Disgustedly, I got to see the replays of the implosion at home, and I IMMEDIATELY noticed something. Bobby Jenks windup, is taking him to the first-base side of the mound. This is causing his fastball to straighten out ........... and everyone gets a meatball to hit. I hope someone sees this ......................
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:02 AM
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I'm anything but a scout or a pitching coach, but Jenks is far from the model for pitching mechanics. He probably has a different glitch in his delivery every night, and he certainly doesn't come out with the same stuff every night.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:08 AM
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There was a common theme on the gamethread that Jenks is just too shaky when he inherits baserunners. Still wondering if the outcome of the 9th would have been different if Cotts stayed or if Jenks had started.

We'll never know.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:11 AM
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someone let Coop know please
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:16 AM
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Email Brooks!!!
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:16 AM
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With runners on, Jenks is afraid to throw his curveball because he's worried it will be a wild pitch. His curveball is most effective when it breaks well in front of the plate, often bouncing in the dirt. With runners on, he's afraid to let it fly and hitters just sit on his fastball. Not surprisingly, he gets lit up. Same thing happened Friday night when he inherited Thornton's walk. I imagine advance scouts are well aware of this - query why Ozzie isn't.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:19 AM
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Velocity is still a major concern for me.

Jenks at 96-98 is lights out.

92-95 = Billy Koch


And I agree, he absolutely blows when he comes in when runners or on. He should only come in to start an inning. Ozzie dropped the ball last night and should have allowed Cotts to face Salmon. Cotts has the stuff to get any RH hitter out. I don't see the logic of using 3 pitchers to get 3 outs in the ninth inning, especially on a game where you might need your relievers if the game goes 11-12 innings.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:30 AM
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someone let Coop know please
I'm sure he is awaiting his call...........
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:46 AM
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Velocity is still a major concern for me.

Jenks at 96-98 is lights out.

92-95 = Billy Koch


And I agree, he absolutely blows when he comes in when runners or on. He should only come in to start an inning. Ozzie dropped the ball last night and should have allowed Cotts to face Salmon. Cotts has the stuff to get any RH hitter out. I don't see the logic of using 3 pitchers to get 3 outs in the ninth inning, especially on a game where you might need your relievers if the game goes 11-12 innings.
I haven't seen him throw that fast this year. Has he even hit the 100 mark this year?
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:48 AM
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With runners on, Jenks is afraid to throw his curveball because he's worried it will be a wild pitch. His curveball is most effective when it breaks well in front of the plate, often bouncing in the dirt. With runners on, he's afraid to let it fly and hitters just sit on his fastball. Not surprisingly, he gets lit up. Same thing happened Friday night when he inherited Thornton's walk. I imagine advance scouts are well aware of this - query why Ozzie isn't.
Well, hes not "veteran" enough that, if he doesnt have his "stuff", he can still LOCATE his pitches. WHen he doesnt locate his fastball and falls behind in the count, he has to come fastball down the middle, and as you all know, you dont get away with that in the AL. Jenks is finding this out.
His curveball wasnt locating either. I would love if Cotts had stayed out there ............... another giveaway game.

However, I see that Jenks isnt standing straight ...........hes falling backward towards 1b on the mound, and its causing his fastball to NOT LOCATE and straighten out. Coop? Brooks?
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:48 AM
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I haven't seen him throw that fast this year. Has he even hit the 100 mark this year?
Jenks has been hitting 96-98 with no problem. Those are the speeds shown on the scoreboard at the park.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:52 AM
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I haven't seen him throw that fast this year. Has he even hit the 100 mark this year?
I could swear Ive seen him hit 100 a few times
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:53 AM
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I don't know how the gun at the park can be trusted, but it had 98-101 last Wednesday against the Mariners (yeah, it was probably a little high, but he was effective)
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:01 AM
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I don't know how the gun at the park can be trusted, but it had 98-101 last Wednesday against the Mariners (yeah, it was probably a little high, but he was effective)
I have never seen jenks hit above 98 on the scoreboard at the park. I believe the speeds shown on TV are higher.
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:28 AM
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With runners on, Jenks is afraid to throw his curveball because he's worried it will be a wild pitch. His curveball is most effective when it breaks well in front of the plate, often bouncing in the dirt. With runners on, he's afraid to let it fly and hitters just sit on his fastball. Not surprisingly, he gets lit up.
Exactly.
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