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Old 01-24-2006, 01:16 PM
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"I'm very close to the Clemente family and I have tremendous respect for Roberto Clemente's accomplishments," said Robinson, a Jackie Robinson Foundation board member and daughter of the group's founder, Rachel Robinson, Jackie's widow. "To my understanding, the purpose of retiring my father's number is that what he did changed all of baseball, not only for African-Americans but also for Latinos, so I think that purpose has been met. When you start retiring numbers across the board, for all different groups, you're kind of diluting the original purpose."
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:23 PM
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yup. But the pressure will be intense to cave in because of the power of identity politics.
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:27 PM
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she's right.
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:30 PM
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Nice mention for our guys:
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Robinson also pointed to last year's world champion Chicago White Sox as a perfect model of diversity and inclusiveness.
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:31 PM
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I hope they don't continue this practice. Retired numbers should be for players who played on the team they played for.

It is great to honor Jackie Robinson but I would much prefer say an annual leaguewide Jackie Robinson day or week (modeled after his debut date of April 15). You can honor Roberto Clemente or other players in this manner.

Robinson would also be honored actively on a yearly basis as opposed to the one time ceremony held several years ago (I was at the sold out Mets game in Shea Stadium om Jackie Robinson Day several years ago - a great event).
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:37 PM
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I think she is right also.
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:55 PM
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She's 100% correct. His should be the only jersey retired league wide.
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Old 01-24-2006, 02:54 PM
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She's 100% correct. His should be the only jersey retired league wide.
Very much agreed.
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:15 PM
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She's 100% correct. His should be the only jersey retired league wide.
I agree. Well...maybe Babe Ruth's #3.....
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:25 PM
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I agree. Well...maybe Babe Ruth's #3.....
that is the only other number that should even be considered

None of us can ever fully understand what it must have been like for Jackie Robinson. The abuse he took has been well documented and he promised Branch Rickey he would hold his emotions in check.

Larry Doby is almost forgotten but he was alone in the American League for awhile as well so I'm sure he got the same abuse.

There are other ways MLB can honor Clemente, perhaps naming something like the MVP Award in his honor.
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:50 PM
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that is the only other number that should even be considered

None of us can ever fully understand what it must have been like for Jackie Robinson. The abuse he took has been well documented and he promised Branch Rickey he would hold his emotions in check.

Larry Doby is almost forgotten but he was alone in the American League for awhile as well so I'm sure he got the same abuse.

There are other ways MLB can honor Clemente, perhaps naming something like the MVP Award in his honor.

I think Robinson's number should only be retired in the National League and Larry Doby's number should be retired in the American league. He missed being the first black in MLB by just a few weeks. His strugles were just as bad and he was a very good player as well.
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Old 01-24-2006, 07:39 PM
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There are other ways MLB can honor Clemente, perhaps naming something like the MVP Award in his honor.
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Robinson's number should only be retired in the National League and Larry Doby's number should be retired in the American league
Both of these are excellent ideas. Clemente was an amazing player, I can't think of a better all around player that I've seen.

I also agree that Doby must have gone through hell at first, although I don't recall him mentioning it. Anybody else have info on this?
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Old 01-24-2006, 07:46 PM
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I agree with her. What could MLB do to honor Clemente? I think naming an award after him is great, but I'd like to see something more. Any ideas?


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Old 01-24-2006, 11:19 PM
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There already is a Roberto Clemente Award

"The Roberto Clemente Award is given annually to a player who demonstrates the values Clemente displayed in his commitment to community and understanding the value of helping others. Each club nominates a player in September. The winner is selected from 30 nominees during the World Series."

John Smoltz won it this year.
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Old 01-26-2006, 03:28 PM
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No. 3 should be retired for little league, high school, college and professional baseball period.
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