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Old 12-28-2005, 12:45 PM
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Wow, what unexpected great news!! Very reasonable contract, and it gives the Sox so much leverage... welcome back to the fold Jonny boy!



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Old 12-28-2005, 12:45 PM
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Looks like Contrearas and his agent lost the game of chicken. KW has absolutely mastered this off season.

I would love to see this scenario play out where Contrearas signs for three years at approximately the same numbers and then Vazquez is dealt.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:46 PM
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i would love to get hayden penn from the o's....along with maybe rodrigo lopez for the bullpen??
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Wow. KW is the man, that's all I can say.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:46 PM
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Who stole our Hangar?
I agree... someone check that IP adress, somethings wrong!
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:47 PM
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$7M Year One
$10M Year Two
$12M Year Three
Interesting. From what I've read, Garland was projected to receive close to $7 million in arbitration this year. On top of that, we have him signed for $11 million per year over the next two years. That's below market value for a pitcher of his quality.

Good signing for both parties.

Now what happens to our rotation? I was of the assumption that McCarthy would fill the #5 spot because of his league minimum salary and talent combination. Does this mean Contreras will be traded to open a spot for McCarthy?
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:48 PM
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Daveey:

The Braves payroll for the last fifteen years has been higher then the league average and has at times topped 95 million.

The Cardinals payroll has averaged in the 90 million dollar range.

The Astros have had a sizable payroll for years above the 85 million dollar mark.

Until the past two years what was the Sox payroll again???

You are looking at the definition of 'big market' only in terms of population size. There's a lot more to it then how many folks live in your area, (and by that definition San Francisco - Oakland is a huge market!).

Attitude is a large factor is how you are perceived as an organization.

For the White Sox, as Williams had said and hoped 'winning' something of substance has changed EVERYTHING. Welcome to the 'big leagues' White Sox and God love ya for it.

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So now it's how much you spend that determines your market rather than the actual market? Kind of flies in the face of many arguments made against Reinsy pre '05. I agree with the attitude though. And the right attitude squeezes every penny, fan and corporation out of a team's market and makes that team's games destination events.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:49 PM
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So the rotation for the beginning of 2006 figures to be:

Buehrle
Contreras
Garland
Garcia
Vazquez

McCarthy starts in the bullpen ready to step in for any injured or sub-par performers. That's as solid a starting rotation as you'll ever see. Kenny has improved the offense this winter, too.

The 2005 Sox would have a tough time handling this new 2006 version of the team.

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sorry couldnt resist
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I think I'll get that Garland jersey now
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:49 PM
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The Sox official site now has the news press release up.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:51 PM
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Daveey:

"Big market' clubs have 'big' payrolls and are proactive. The White Sox have now finally decided to join those ranks and it's high time too!

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I would love to see this scenario play out where Contrearas signs for three years at approximately the same numbers and then Vazquez is dealt.
Only for an All-Star center fielder! Nobody ever had too much pitching.

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So the rotation for the beginning of 2006 figures to be:

Buehrle
Contreras
Garland
Garcia
Vazquez

McCarthy starts in the bullpen ready to step in for any injured or sub-par performers. That's as solid a starting rotation as you'll ever see. Kenny has improved the offense this winter, too.

The 2005 Sox would have a tough time handling this new 2006 version of the team.

I say we throw all 6 to start out the year then unload someone at the deadline to fill any injuries or down year related holes.... we are in the Drivers seat right now and we have the fastest car out there!
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:52 PM
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Crazy trade rumors might increase with this signing. 3 yrs 29 mil I think is very cheap for a pitcher who is young, pitches 200 innings a year , and is in double digits for victories a year. Knowing that he is locked up for 3 years and relatively cheap (with the way pitching is going for right now) will make him much more attractive trade material. Dont get me wrong I love the signing I think its great, but I also think it wont stop the rumors.
I agree. I was pretty surprised (and of course, excited) when I heard the news. Trade rumors should decrease a bit but there will still be plenty of them.

How locked in is this team for the future? It is insane. They now have Buehrle, Garcia, Garland and Vazquez locked in through 2007 (through contract or club options). How many other teams have the core of their staff locked in for the next two seasons? Throw in a vetran catcher for another three years and this is one damn fine staff. Sox also have the two big sluggers (Konerko and Thome), second baseman, shortstop and right fielder locked up through 2007 (contracts or club options).

That is one niffty organization operating on the south side...
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:53 PM
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Looks like Contrearas and his agent lost the game of chicken. KW has absolutely mastered this off season.

I would love to see this scenario play out where Contrearas signs for three years at approximately the same numbers and then Vazquez is dealt.

Better sign soon Jose or Kenny may have you pitching in Cincinnati or some other god-awful place this season. Can you say Jose = Ken Griffey Jr?
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