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Old 11-16-2005, 10:34 PM
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Article compares him to Buehrle and Maddux. Not an overpowering pitcher like Jenks, rather one who controls his pitches.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASA...=.jsp&c_id=cws
So, the question is, are we having an embarrassment of riches with all this pitching depth at the Big Show and minor league level?

This certainly makes it easier to sign position players who would rather be supported by Sox pitching than face it....
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:08 PM
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:30 PM
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I love the kids attitude. "My first legitimate shot for the majors is 2007." Lance, buddy, you'll be lucky if you're in Birmingham in 2007. Randar, am I out of bounds? This kids not gonna be in the bigs until 2008 or 2009.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:00 AM
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Actually, I think 2007 is about right for his first shot. The article said he's going to start in B-ham next year, and he'll probably spend most or all of the year there. Assuming he does well, you figure he'll be in line to take a spot if Garland or Contreras leaves in '07, or at least pick up a start or two during the season. That kind of break-in plan is not unlike what BMac did this year. With Broadway, Gio, Liotta, Haigwood, and others, the Sox are looking good on the hill for the future.
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:47 AM
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If ever a name deserved Geoff Blum's haircut, it's Lance Broadway.
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:02 AM
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If ever a name deserved Geoff Blum's haircut, it's Lance Broadway.
If there was ever a porn star name, it's Lance Broadway.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:39 AM
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I love the kids attitude. "My first legitimate shot for the majors is 2007." Lance, buddy, you'll be lucky if you're in Birmingham in 2007. Randar, am I out of bounds? This kids not gonna be in the bigs until 2008 or 2009.
He will likely start in Birmingham in 2006. He's a polished college pitcher. He should be ready for the bigs by the end of 2007 at the latest, IMO, maybe Spring 2008 depending on how the major league pitching looks at that point.
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:21 AM
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Depending on how big our lead is in the division. I still would not call him up. I would have to see him first and I would like to have him on the roster by 2007.
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:22 PM
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I love the way they describe how the guy controls his pitches, but he can still throw 93 when needed and thats well above a buehrle ball.
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:48 PM
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Randar,

He sounds like McCarthy. You think they are similar?
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Old 11-18-2005, 12:08 AM
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He sounds like McCarthy. You think they are similar?
Not really. True they throw a similar assortment of pitches, but they're somewhat different in their approaches and physical makeup IMO. I think Brandon is also more aggressive in the strike zone with his fastball and has better command (which is to be expected) with all his pitches, not to mention Brandon already throws harder than Lance.

Lance more or less has filled out physically, so it will come down to control with him. I just don't think you can project him to be much better than a middle of the rotation pitcher, whereas Brandon can be projected to be a top of the rotation guy.
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Old 11-19-2005, 08:34 AM
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I saw him pitch 3 or 4 times in college. He could really hit the corners, almost at will.
I wanted us to draft Bogusevich - but for personal reasons as he was one of the few ChiSox/Green Wave fans I knew in New Orleans. But Broadway had the better year on the mound than did Bogie.
His "stuff" suggests mid rotation; but you never know - if he can hit a corner at 93, he can be a top guy.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:53 AM
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He will likely start in Birmingham in 2006. He's a polished college pitcher. He should be ready for the bigs by the end of 2007 at the latest, IMO, maybe Spring 2008 depending on how the major league pitching looks at that point.
To make that quick of a jump, doesn't he need to put up McCarthy-like numbers? In addition, does Broadway leapfrog Haigwood, Tracey and Gio Gonzalez? It's not like the Sox minor league system is devoid of pitching talent. Your thoughts, Randar.
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:22 AM
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Article compares him to Buehrle and Maddux. Not an overpowering pitcher like Jenks, rather one who controls his pitches.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASA...=.jsp&c_id=cws
So, the question is, are we having an embarrassment of riches with all this pitching depth at the Big Show and minor league level?

This certainly makes it easier to sign position players who would rather be supported by Sox pitching than face it....
You can never have enough pitching.

In 2000-2001, we had an embarrassment of riches in terms of young pitching in the minor leagues, and none of it turned out, with the exception of the least heralded, Mark Buehrle.

You cannot control injuries, but I would be happy if just two or three of the following pitchers made a significant impact in the majors with the Sox....

Gio
Haigwood
Liotta
Lumsden
Tracey
Broadway
Haeger
Honel
Corwin Malone

That, of course, is not to mention the contributions of Jenks and McCarthy.

We will have to replace Contreras or Garland after next season, if not both.

The problem is that Tracey is the closest one to the majors...most of those other guys are looked at for 2008 arrivals. Broadway getting the edge because of his college experience.

Worst-case scenario
2007 Buehrle
Garcia
McCarthy
Gonzalez
Broadway, Haigwood or Tracey

2008 McCarthy
Gonzalez
Broadway
???
???

Of course, KW and-or the Sox got Garcia, Garland, Contreras, El Duque by trade...it would be cheaper to replace pitching internally, but there is no doubt we will have to make 2-3 trades as well...the key will be producing 3 starters whose rights we control for 6 years and who give us the flexibility with the payroll to add a couple of other studs to supplement
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Old 11-20-2005, 03:26 AM
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Of course, KW and-or the Sox got Garcia, Garland, Contreras, El Duque by trade...it would be cheaper to replace pitching internally, but there is no doubt we will have to make 2-3 trades as well...the key will be producing 3 starters whose rights we control for 6 years and who give us the flexibility with the payroll to add a couple of other studs to supplement
El Duque came to the Sox via Free Agency and KW still had to get Freddy Garcia to resign. I don't think it is too far beyond the Sox parameters to resign Mark Buehrle and Garland long term (3 year max, right?) and as long as the Sox don't trade to get Josh Fogg and Kip Wells to fill out the rotation, I think we'll be alright.
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