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Old 05-24-2005, 01:10 AM
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it's great to see that when someone has a view on this board the "thought police" make their appearance.
You are entitled to a view. And when that view is irrational, others have the right to take you to task without being "thought police."

Please try to learn to use capital letters where they belong. Or not, I don't care, because you are heading for my ignore list anyway.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:10 AM
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it's great to see that when someone has a view on this board the "thought police" make their appearance.
Aren't you also "policing" the thoughts of others? Relax. Breathe in deep a couple times, then go make yourself a cocktail. It will get better, I promise
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:10 AM
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this is their worst showing of the season.
I wouldn't say it's their worst showing. Though the Sox won the game on walks, they were 2 hit by somebody. Can't remember who.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:11 AM
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THis game is the reson the season is 162 games long and not 16. Games like this are going to hppen. Santan pitched good just as Prior did yesterday. We just have toss this one in the 42 losses you're going to have column. Any worrying about it is totally useless.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:11 AM
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I know it may be very unpopular here, and I can see where people are coming from when they want these guys lynched, but I really believe that Luis Vizcaino is much better than what he's shown, and will end up being an important contributor to a division-winning bullpen before all is said and done. Same thing with Jermaine Dye.

Plus, it's Twins fans, not us, that should be freaking out. We lost to a first place team, and the Twins couldn't capitalize. Another game off the schedule, another day where we're still 5 games up.

Yes, we didn't sweep the Cubs. Yes, we looked very flat today. Yes, I wholeheartedly disagree with Ozzie's decision Sunday. Yes, I want to make a move to get somebody else playing 3B everyday in August and September.

But the bottom line is, 4 games have been wiped off the schedule in this period of time where the Twins didn't gain an inch. If the Twins can't shave a game or two off of our lead during stretches like this where we have some things go wrong, advantage White Sox.

We're going to split with this team, and there's nothing wrong with a split on the road against a first place team.

The Twins are going to split with Cleveland, and we will still be 5 games up on Friday morning, just like we were last Friday.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:11 AM
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who says i rant after every loss? this is their worst showing of the season. could be the start of a slide. but hey, they've played good till this point right? we shouldn't worry. naw. it's nothing. not even a blip on the radar.
your pithy lil barbs DON'T impress me. it's great to see that when someone has a view on this board the "thought police" make their appearance.
Dude, I can understand why you are frustrated but you need to calm down. It counts as one loss, look at the big picture. Sleep on it and come back tomorrow, you'll feel better. This is not the start of a trend, this was abberation. I have enough confidence in this team to make that statement.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:12 AM
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who says i rant after every loss? this is their worst showing of the season. could be the start of a slide. but hey, they've played good till this point right? we shouldn't worry. naw. it's nothing. not even a blip on the radar.


And what about the 31 games we have won? You are ridiculious.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:12 AM
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If you look at cotts stats this season http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/st...840&statType=2 you'll see that he's appeared in 16 games and given up an ER in 4 of them, but what you need to really research is all the inherited runners he lets score (just ask Buehrle) and he walks way too many guys. He is a 'left handed specialist' but lefties are hitting over .370 against him.
Yeah but righties are only batting .040 against him, so he is doing an amazing job getting right handers out.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:14 AM
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Aren't you also "policing" the thoughts of others? Relax. Breathe in deep a couple times, then go make yourself a cocktail. It will get better, I promise
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:18 AM
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I know it may be very unpopular here, and I can see where people are coming from when they want these guys lynched, but I really believe that Luis Vizcaino is much better than what he's shown, and will end up being an important contributor to a division-winning bullpen before all is said and done. Same thing with Jermaine Dye.

Plus, it's Twins fans, not us, that should be freaking out. We lost to a first place team, and the Twins couldn't capitalize. Another game off the schedule, another day where we're still 5 games up.

Yes, we didn't sweep the Cubs. Yes, we looked very flat today. Yes, I wholeheartedly disagree with Ozzie's decision Sunday. Yes, I want to make a move to get somebody else playing 3B everyday in August and September.

But the bottom line is, 4 games have been wiped off the schedule in this period of time where the Twins didn't gain an inch. If the Twins can't shave a game or two off of our lead during stretches like this where we have some things go wrong, advantage White Sox.

We're going to split with this team, and there's nothing wrong with a split on the road against a first place team.

The Twins are going to split with Cleveland, and we will still be 5 games up on Friday morning, just like we were last Friday.
Good points, and I agree with most, especially the part about the standings.

I'm not as optimistic on Vizcaino. His career numbers are awful, except for one good year. I hope Coop knows something we're not seeing, but I have no faith in Viz right now.

Interesting thought about Crede, but I doubt a move will be made. It may not be necessary.

I still think we can take the next three in Anaheim. A split would be acceptable, though.

What I started noticing a couple weeks ago is that Twins aren't really that good this year (compared to the last three, anyway). Maybe I'm wrong, but I think we are much better than Minnesota.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:21 AM
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A few points.....

If the Sox make the post season as the #1 seed there is a good chance they'll be meeting the Angels in the first round. Just something to remember considering the Sox are now an impotent 3-16 in Anaheim since the start of the 2001 season.

Two, the kid pitcher tonight for the Angels made his MLB debut last week versus Cleveland. They didn't seem to have any trouble with him. In his first major-league start last week, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim right-hander Ervin Santana gave up a single, double, triple and home run to the first four Cleveland Indians he faced.

This was a flat out awful performance worthy of the lifeless games that were frequent in 2003 and 2004.

In the past those Sox clubs would go in a funk and tank the next two or three games...we'll see how they respond Tuesday since they may have been jet lagged.

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Old 05-24-2005, 01:21 AM
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who says i rant after every loss? this is their worst showing of the season. could be the start of a slide. but hey, they've played good till this point right? we shouldn't worry. naw. it's nothing. not even a blip on the radar.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:25 AM
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Yeah but righties are only batting .040 against him, so he is doing an amazing job getting right handers out.
Ozzie brings him in to face 'tough' lefties though :(
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:26 AM
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Two, the kid pitcher tonight for the Angels made his MLB debut last week versus Cleveland. They didn't seem to have any trouble with him. In his first major-league start last week, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim right-hander Ervin Santana gave up a single, double, triple and home run to the first four Cleveland Indians he faced.
Yes, it does seem odd. Apparently, there's a big difference between first and second major league starts. The kid obviously has talent that wasn't displayed in his debut outing.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:30 AM
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vizz the fizz needs to be run out of town... ozzie should just give him bus fare and leave him out in LA....... if ozzie doesn't stop falling in love with vizz the fizz and cotts, bringing them in first, then he may be given a bus ticket himself.

So you'd rather use Polite and Marte in a game where it's clear the offense is not going to score three runs to get back into it?
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