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Old 05-23-2005, 11:54 PM
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You're right, the Sox didn't try to hit or score. Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound? You are completely embarrassing yourself. Do yourself a favor, back away from the keyboard and return tomorrow when you have regained some composure.
how dense can ya be to take something like that literally. i guess that's the difference between you and myself. i demand success. you shrug you shoulders and say "oh well" and that kind of attitude doesn't register with me.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:55 PM
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All the signs were there...you could totally see this loss coming. Oh well. Santana was just plain nasty- that slider was unbelievable. Buehrle will come back and beat Colon tomorrow. But, there are two things we can take out of this game: <snip>
I agree with your negatives, but don't forget the positives:

AJ threw out two runners

Konerko has a nice little seven game hitting streak going (.464)
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:56 PM
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We talked about this in the chat, but does anyone else think that if Rowand is in center, those runs don't score? Frankly, as I said, I think Rowand catches both the Kennedy double and the Molina single. For that matter, Pods might catch those balls. I have no idea why Timo was in center. It should have been Pods in center with Rowand resting. That's a poor decision by Ozzie. It's becoming clearer that Timo is gone when Gload and Frank return.
YES!

Jjav, I should have read your post before posting my own. I totally agree.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:56 PM
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how dense can ya be to take something like that literally. i guess that's the difference between you and myself. i demand success. you shrug you shoulders and say "oh well" and that kind of attitude doesn't register with me.
Don't be a moron.

Let me ask you something. Say the Sox made this game a close one, say 4-3, would that be a rousing success? Chill out. If you expect success everyday in a game like baseball, go find some other sport/team to follow.
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Yeah, they won is spite of Greg Walker, Ozzie, KW, JR and everybody else associated with that team. It's either a friggin' miracle or they knew more about what they were doing than posters here. I guess I have to go with "friggin' miracle" since the posters here obviously make any professional baseball person look like a moron.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:57 PM
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...Oh yeah, and Vizcaino, here's your plane ticket for Charlotte. Have fun with Adkins for a few weeks, come back when you don't suck. Thanks in advance. Anyone think it's time to give Baj a chance?
I'm ready for that. I'm extremely disappointed in Vizcaino. Coming into the year, I was hoping for him to be a good 7th and 8th inning guy. Right now, he's a mop-up pitcher at best. We need better depth in our bullpen. I like the back end of the pen with Hermanson, Marte and Politte. But Cotts, Vizcaino, Shingo and Walker can't be trusted in close games at this point and that's a problem. When you have a team built on pitching, you have to have everyone getting it done. At this point, that simply isn't happening. The back 3 have been fine, but Shingo and Vizcaino haven't been good. Cotts has been ok. But something has to happen with Shingo and Vizcaino soon. Either they step up and start pitching well, or they have to be replaced. I'm all for calling up Diaz and Bajenaru at this point. Either that or Kenny should look into acquiring a stud closer at the deadline and push everyone back.

Hell, Danny Graves isn't looking like a bad option right now.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:57 PM
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Let's see how things go in the remaining games this week before the Sky is Falling threads are created by people saying nonsense. It's a loss. The world's in imperfect place. The Sox will lose AT LEAST 60 games this year. 13 so far....so at least 47 to go. Relax and know they'll play better tomorrow
I know, it's just frustrating becuase this team has been light years ahead of where it's been in the past and it still seems like they can not rid themselves of that WC demon.

Oh well, tomorrow's a new day and we've got Buehrle, Garcia, and Contreras going the rest of the way so I'm sure we can pick up a couple.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:58 PM
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Hell, Danny Graves isn't looking like a bad option right now.
I wouldn't go that far.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:59 PM
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Hell, Danny Graves isn't looking like a bad option right now.

Or Oil Can Boyd for that matter
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:00 AM
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If you look at cotts stats this season http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/st...840&statType=2 you'll see that he's appeared in 16 games and given up an ER in 4 of them, but what you need to really research is all the inherited runners he lets score (just ask Buehrle) and he walks way too many guys. He is a 'left handed specialist' but lefties are hitting over .370 against him.
You may be right, but AFAIC, Cotts is Bob Gibson compared to Vizcaino.

Either way, I'm glad Ozzie saved the real bullpen for the rest of the series.
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:01 AM
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I take great relief in the fact that we are still the team to beat in MLB. The Angels stepped it up tonight behind a good outing from both pitchers. Our first shutout all year, and not against anyone in our division. Can't wait to see our Ace tomorrow.
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:02 AM
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how dense can ya be to take something like that literally. i guess that's the difference between you and myself. i demand success. you shrug you shoulders and say "oh well" and that kind of attitude doesn't register with me.
Seriously, if you are going to go off spittle-flying rants over every loss, you need to find another sport to follow. MLB teams lose. A lot, by the standards of other sports. 60% wins is pretty good. 70% over the course of a season is virtually unheard of. You "demand" sucess. I'm impressed.

You guys who go off on "Ozzie should know he can't play this guy, he can't play that guy" need to suggest alternatives. It is so easy to be critical after you know the outcome. These guys are on the roster, and unless there is someone better waiting in the wings, they are who he has to work with.

Just a little suggestion, since you're new to the board. You might want to soft-pedal the name calling just because someone disagrees with you. You don't manage a Toys-R-Us in Texas, do you?
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:02 AM
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I wouldn't go that far.
Why? A week ago he had a 3.45 ERA. Two horrible outings later that is up to 7.36. It's not like the guy has been getting bombed all year long. Aside from adjusting to the role, I think coming to a winning team and being put into a 6th/7th inning type role might help get him back on track. I know he's lost some velocity, but if he can regain some of that velocity he can still be a very effective pitcher. Certainly much better than Vizcaino at this point.
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:06 AM
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Seriously, if you are going to go off spittle-flying rants over every loss, you need to find another sport to follow. MLB teams lose. A lot, by the standards of other sports. 60% wins is pretty good. 70% over the course of a season is virtually unheard of. You "demand" sucess. I'm impressed.
Yes, 60% is the standard even in basketball (50 wins), which makes the 72-10 Bulls godlike. Just for fun, that works out to 142-20 in baseball. Still possible for the Sox.
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:07 AM
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Seriously, if you are going to go off spittle-flying rants over every loss, you need to find another sport to follow. MLB teams lose. A lot, by the standards of other sports. 60% wins is pretty good. 70% over the course of a season is virtually unheard of. You "demand" sucess. I'm impressed.
who says i rant after every loss? this is their worst showing of the season. could be the start of a slide. but hey, they've played good till this point right? we shouldn't worry. naw. it's nothing. not even a blip on the radar.
your pithy lil barbs DON'T impress me. it's great to see that when someone has a view on this board the "thought police" make their appearance.
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:10 AM
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The loss does not bother me that much
All losses bother me and I hope they bother the team too. I don't think the sky is falling;in fact I am not worried about the team at all('cept maybe Fizzcaino). I just have a hard time finding silver linings in losses,though I see them clearly in the games ahead.
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