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Old 03-25-2005, 01:57 PM
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If you thought yesterday's article from BP made you mad, you probably shouldn't read this one.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=3869

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Old 03-25-2005, 02:01 PM
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Aaron Rowand is presumably back, taking the place of the alien that played in his body last year


Freddy Garcia and Mark Buehrle are mid-rotation innings guys who get paid like aces
Are you fricken kidding me?? These quotes are very laughable.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:03 PM
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You can contact him on that page, so let's send him a barrage of e-mails.
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Freddie, how are you getting guys out?

"throwing a bunch of bull****."
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:11 PM
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71-91?????

Joe Sheehan - don't be bogartin'! Pass that s**t around!!!
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:16 PM
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White Sox in fourth place? Good. This will only make winning the division that much sweeter.

Joe Sheehan

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Old 03-25-2005, 02:16 PM
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"Actually, that shorts the pickup of Tadahito Iguchi, who was kind of a Japanese Ray Durham. Keep in mind that Durham had his last healthy, effective season at 29; Iguchi turned 30 in December."

Yah, Iguchi may as well hang 'em up, he doesn't have a chance.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:30 PM
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"Actually, that shorts the pickup of Tadahito Iguchi, who was kind of a Japanese Ray Durham. Keep in mind that Durham had his last healthy, effective season at 29; Iguchi turned 30 in December."
That is probably the dumbest most irrelevant thing I have ever seen written. I will be absolutely shocked if this team only wins 71 games.

Rowand has hit well every time he's been in the majors except for when he was still recovering from his accident. Plus the fact that he works his arse off I don't really expect him to drop off all that much.

People devalue this offense so much its amazing. Rowand, Uribe, Everett, Konerko, Thomas, Crede, Dye will all hit 20 HR at least.

I'm just ready for the season to start so I don't have to read any more of this crap.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:35 PM
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Interesting analysis. He seems to be fairly negative on most teams / players, so one can probably just assume that his grading scale is pretty tough. I'm a bit more interested in what he has to say about other teams. He doesn't like the Twins defense. It will be worth keeping an eye on some of those young players on the Indians that he mentions.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:41 PM
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People devalue this offense so much its amazing. Rowand, Uribe, Everett, Konerko, Thomas, Crede, Dye will all hit 20 HR at least.
Don't forget, Thomas is going to retire! He's never going to play again!
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:42 PM
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IIRC Sheehan has picked the Sox to finish first a few times since 2000, so maybe it's a good sign he's turning on them.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:49 PM
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Interesting analysis. He seems to be fairly negative on most teams / players, so one can probably just assume that his grading scale is pretty tough. I'm a bit more interested in what he has to say about other teams. He doesn't like the Twins defense. It will be worth keeping an eye on some of those young players on the Indians that he mentions.
I don't understand where all the love for the Cleveland bullpen comes from. It's basically the same guys that sucked last year plus suckass Arthur Rhodes.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:50 PM
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White Sox in fourth place? Now that is laughable.

I think the Twins are in serious trouble this year. The Tigers will improve, but the long-term Magglio deal was not their best move. The Indians will improve, I pick them to finish second. The Royals? Well, he's spot-on on the Royals, but so what?
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:52 PM
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Any prediction that the Sox will finish sub-.500 for the first time this century is unadulterated BS. It doesn't help when the prediction is "supported" by additional nonsense like:
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Aaron Rowand is presumably back, taking the place of the alien that played in his body last year
Freddy Garcia and Mark Buehrle are mid-rotation innings guys who get paid like aces
Everybody conveniently forgets that Rowand's career numbers are quite good (.290 AVE, 67 2B, and 41 HR over 1069 career ABs). We're not talking about Curt Warner here. Even a stathead should recognize that Rowand's unlikely to suck in 2005 at the ripe old age of 27.

Meanwhile, Buehrle and Garcia have been two of the top pitchers in the AL over the past several years. The fact that they eat a lot of innings is just another plus. Even a stathead should recognize that they're unlikely to suck in 2005 at the ripe old age of 26 and 28, respectively.

Finally, neither Garcia nor Buerhle "get paid like aces," though both are definitely top-of-the-rotation starters. In fact, Buehrle is one of the best cost-per-production values in all of pro sports.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:56 PM
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I would put down $1,000 that this guy is a lifelong Cubs or Twins fan.
Half the guys he mentioned in the Twins part haven't even played in a full MLB season before.

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as Justin Morneau plays a full year and is one of the ten best hitters in the league,
This made me laugh hardest. Morneau's career numbers:
386 AB .259 avg 23 HR 74 RBI 53 HR
I can name at least 20 AL hitters I would rather have on my team:
Alex Rodriguez
Vladimir Guerrero
Miguel Tejada
Manny Ramirez
Ichiro Suzuki
Carl Crawford
Adrian Beltre
David Ortiz
Mark Teixera
Melvin Mora
Derek Jeter
Paul Konerko
Travis Hafner
Eric Chavez
Jorge Posada
Hideki Matsui
Frank Thomas
Aaron Rowand
Aubrey Huff
Tadahito Iguchi
I'd do more but I don't have time to name them all.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:59 PM
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YOU ARE KILLING ME SMALLS............

Who in the White Sox organization wizzed in his Cheerios? Man....
LET'S JUST ALL STOP ROOTING FOR THE SOX....WE ALREADY KNOW THEY WILL BE WORTHLESS THIS YEAR.
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