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Old 12-20-2004, 11:17 AM
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Cops investigate Wrigleyville rape

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Published December 20, 2004, 9:21 AM CST
This is the actual headline in the Cubune's website today. The poor headline writer (and reporter) will be fired immediately for getting their geography wrong. It is "Lakeview." Only good, happy things happen in "Wrigleyville."
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Old 12-20-2004, 11:49 AM
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Maybe not. In this short article great pains were made to make the point that this is not an ordinary occurence in paradise.
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Old 12-20-2004, 01:03 PM
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Police do not believe the attack was related to any other recent incidents, WGN reported. . . . Residents described the neighborhood as a quiet area not known for problems.
LMAO! One sentence vaguely notes that police don't believe that this rape is related to the numerous other rapes that occurred in Wrigleyville in 2004 (or perhaps they're referencing last week's double stabbing in Wrigleyville). The next notes the erroneous belief held by some "residents" that Wrigleyville is a particularly safe area.

Props to the Trib for identifying the area as "Wrigleyville," but you still get a snail for the BS spin control.


This one is really bad, because it sends the exact opposite of the message police apparently asked the media to convey:
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Women Warned After Rape In Wrigleyville Neighborhood

Police are warning women in the Wrigleyville neighborhood to be alert after a brutal weekend sexual assault.
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Old 12-20-2004, 04:01 PM
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Pardon my ignorance here, but where does Lakeview end and Wrigleyville begin? Or are they essentially the same area?
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Old 12-20-2004, 04:38 PM
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Pardon my ignorance here, but where does Lakeview end and Wrigleyville begin? Or are they essentially the same area?
Identical.
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Old 12-20-2004, 04:46 PM
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Pardon my ignorance here, but where does Lakeview end and Wrigleyville begin? Or are they essentially the same area?
When something bad happens, it's Lakeview. When something good happens, it's Wrigleyville.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, here's the real story. Chicago has "defined" neighborhood sections for administrative purposes. These have definate boundaries. Lakeview is one. There is no defined neighborhood of Wrigleyville. It's just what people call the area around Wrigley. They roughly coincide.
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When something bad happens, it's Lakeview. When something good happens, it's Wrigleyville.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, here's the real story. Chicago has "defined" neighborhood sections for administrative purposes. These have definate boundaries. Lakeview is one. There is no defined neighborhood of Wrigleyville. It's just what people call the area around Wrigley. They roughly coincide.
Thanks for the info (and Mickster as well).

I always wondered about that.
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Old 12-20-2004, 05:38 PM
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In WGN's TV coverage, the reporter went out of her way to say that the incident was not a sign of a widespread problem in the area. Coincidentally, the reporter covering the murder on North Dearborn didn't address the issue of whether it was a sign of a widespread problem in the area....
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Old 12-20-2004, 10:48 PM
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In WGN's TV coverage, the reporter went out of her way to say that the incident was not a sign of a widespread problem in the area. Coincidentally, the reporter covering the murder on North Dearborn didn't address the issue of whether it was a sign of a widespread problem in the area....
And the news reported tonight of a second rape in the area.
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:34 AM
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I think I know why the Tribune Company allows the "Wrigleyville" reference. Since baseball is not in season now, there is no real reason to venture to the dangerous city of Chicago. However, once April 1st rolls around, then all is safe and happy in Wrigleyville.

If I owned a television station, I would report the unfortunate crimes and then maybe mention that no crime was reported today in Comiskeyville......or is that petty?
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:36 AM
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That would be funny. I can picture it now...

Newscaster: Today there was a stabbing down in Blue Island. That's one more stabbing than occurred in, say, Comiskeyville. Which is where the Sox play. It's very peaceful there. It's the perfect place to take your girlfriend on a warm summer day...cuddling in the evening breeze...

*camera dude dumps a pitcher of water on him*

Newscaster: Ah yes, thank you, I needed that...
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Old 12-21-2004, 08:36 AM
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And the news reported tonight of a second rape in the area.
Maybe the authorities, reporters, and even residents of Wrigleyville better start looking for this prick instead of "defending" the honor of the neighborhood. This latest one happened ONE BLOCK away from the srhine, such an upstanding (no pun intended) area. I feel bad for these women, don't get me wrong, but to see more women from that area on the news saying how great it is there kind of unnerves me. Quit fawning for the cameras and saying how great your 'hood is and show a little public outrage and try to help catch this guy.
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I lived in Uptown before I moved away from Chi

My landlord was a paramedic and she said that they had many more violent crime calls in Wrigleyville (er, Lakeview) than in Uptown. Her theory was that my drunken and drug-addicted neighbors (in those days Wilson was a cesspool) would wander down to Addison to rob people who had more money. They were criminals, but it didn't mean they were stupid.

Also, I disagree about the Lakeview/Wrigleyville distinction. I believe Lakeview is the area around Belmont and when you get to Addison it starts to be Wrigleyville. That's the way I always saw it.
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Old 12-21-2004, 11:42 AM
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As No.2 noted, Lakeview is the semi-official, traditional name for the larger neighborhood. Subsequently, certain parts of the neighborhood became informally identified with points of interest (e.g., Wrigleyville, Boystown).

As for the most recent spate of attacks, it appears that not every area resident received the Trib's talking points memo:
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Residents of the neighborhood said they were unnerved by the assaults. "I work and live in this neighborhood. It is absolutely disturbing to me that this would happen once, let alone twice," one woman said. "I walk home every night, and this will change everything. Absolutely, this will change everything."
She immediately was taken to an undisclosed location by blue and red clad agents.
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Old 12-21-2004, 11:56 AM
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I lived in Uptown before I moved away from Chi

My landlord was a paramedic and she said that they had many more violent crime calls in Wrigleyville (er, Lakeview) than in Uptown. Her theory was that my drunken and drug-addicted neighbors (in those days Wilson was a cesspool) would wander down to Addison to rob people who had more money. They were criminals, but it didn't mean they were stupid.

Also, I disagree about the Lakeview/Wrigleyville distinction. I believe Lakeview is the area around Belmont and when you get to Addison it starts to be Wrigleyville. That's the way I always saw it.
They are one in the same thing. Lakeview was a cesspool in the early 80's and 70's but the City and Real Estate saw great opportunity in the area. The problem was the Lakeview name had a bunch of negative connotations with the general public. Also main attraction wasn't one as Cubs were drawing about 9,000 a game in 81. So as the neighborhood was being redeveloped, the Cubs had 84 season. In order to connect the neighborhood to something positive, real estate agent began identifying it by the moniker Wrigleyville. And now you have million dollar buildings in area where you could have bought for under 100,000 in 1980. Wrigellyville was the prototype of rebuilding areas around stadiums and other attractions, which happen all thoughout the 90's.
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