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Old 08-03-2004, 08:52 PM
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Does anyone want to take wagers on that 95 mph velocity being 88 when we see him in the bigs?

I'll give you 10 to 1.
It's funny cuz it's true.

Where have you gone Kyle "99 mph" Kane?
Maybe Kris Honel can showcase his "91-94" heat...
Felix Diaz was supposed to feature a fastball that topped out at mid-90's.

Kip Wells (only once he got away from Nardi and joined the Pirates) and Danny Wright are the only ones whose velocity did not disappoint - both topped out at 97 at some point.

That said, if Mac can eventually throw low-to-mid-90's through a tea cup, and then complement that with a very good curve and a decent change....He'll be lights out in the bigs.

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Old 08-04-2004, 10:55 AM
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It's funny cuz it's true.
Where have you gone Kyle "99 mph" Kane?
Maybe Kris Honel can showcase his "91-94" heat...
Felix Diaz was supposed to feature a fastball that topped out at mid-90's.
Well that's not really fair considering Kane and Honel are both injured. Diaz also does throw 93-94, but he's in love with throwing offspeed stuff.
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Old 08-04-2004, 11:07 AM
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We don't have too many farmhands that look like they can throw 3 legit pitches for strikes, so I would think that this guy will be promoted next year.

Is this guy playing winter ball this year?
Brandon would have to be dominant in a AA/AAA stint next year in order to be promoted, the kid is still very young. I doubt he'll play winter ball, I'm sure they'll try to keep him fresh for the 2005 season.
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Old 08-04-2004, 11:48 AM
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If Brandon doesn't eventually throw 95 MPH+, I'll be surprised. As of now, he tops out at 93 but it built like a rail: 6'7 and 180 lbs. Projectable, anyone?
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Old 08-04-2004, 12:16 PM
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Well that's not really fair considering Kane and Honel are both injured. Diaz also does throw 93-94, but he's in love with throwing offspeed stuff.
Honel never threw what they advertised, at least not in the Sox system. The few times I saw him pitch, he would top out at 90/91 and was pitching in the upper 80's.

Can't comment on Kane, never saw him pitch. Some guys velocity is hyped, other guys isn't and they come up and sometimes surprise you.

Also, BMAC is about 200 pounds now, but should still add some more weight.
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Old 08-04-2004, 01:35 PM
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Honel never threw what they advertised, at least not in the Sox system. The few times I saw him pitch, he would top out at 90/91 and was pitching in the upper 80's.

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That's why I don't believe the reports and wait until I see the guy pitch. Too much BS.

Back to Honel, there is a huge difference between 88 and 94 mph as far as what it does to a hitter's timing/plan - with his two different knuckle curves and a change up, he'd be unhittable with a big fastball.

Will he ever throw as hard as he did in high-school?
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Old 08-04-2004, 01:36 PM
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If Brandon doesn't eventually throw 95 MPH+, I'll be surprised. As of now, he tops out at 93 but it built like a rail: 6'7 and 180 lbs. Projectable, anyone?
How is his change-up progressing?
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Old 08-04-2004, 04:16 PM
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i saw Kane throw a wild pitch on an intentional walk with the winning run on 3rd. that is my Kyle Kane story.
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Old 08-04-2004, 05:03 PM
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Brandon would have to be dominant in a AA/AAA stint next year in order to be promoted, the kid is still very young. I doubt he'll play winter ball, I'm sure they'll try to keep him fresh for the 2005 season.
Sorry. I need to clarify. I didn't mean a promotion to the bigs, I meant a promotion to a higher level in the minors.

I agree about the winter ball, though. It seems like a bad idea to take a kid this green and pile up even more innings on him, unless he is on a REAL FAST TRACK to the bigs.

I would guess that '07 would be his shot to win a roster spot, but if the kid dominates in '05, then that might be pushed up a year.

Eventually, he won't have anything else left to gain by staying on the farm, but that day won't be for at least a year, more likely 2 years. Of course, if the kid wants to take the minors by storm and force his way onto this team in '06 or even September '05, fine by me.
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Old 08-04-2004, 05:04 PM
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The Sox know what they are doing when it comes to highly touted pitchers. Let them handle it.
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Old 08-04-2004, 06:43 PM
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How is his change-up progressing?
Brandon is very comfortable with his changeup. Its the biggest improvement he's made between this year and last year.
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Old 08-04-2004, 07:26 PM
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That's why I don't believe the reports and wait until I see the guy pitch. Too much BS.

Back to Honel, there is a huge difference between 88 and 94 mph as far as what it does to a hitter's timing/plan - with his two different knuckle curves and a change up, he'd be unhittable with a big fastball.

Will he ever throw as hard as he did in high-school?
He averaged 91-92 in HS.
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Old 08-04-2004, 08:35 PM
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He averaged 91-92 in HS.
Yes, but he topped out at 94+ at times. People who played on opposing teams still remember him throwing absolute lasers when he needed a strike-out.
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Old 08-04-2004, 08:41 PM
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Yes, but he topped out at 94+ at times. People who played on opposing teams still remember him throwing absolute lasers when he needed a strike-out.
I watched every home game he pitched in person, he rarely threw above 92, and when he did his control was suspect to say the least. He doesn't use a fastball as an out pitch anyway, he uses the fastball to set up his change.
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Old 08-04-2004, 08:59 PM
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How is his change-up progressing?
When I asked him about his changeup, he said that it's still coming along. But don't think he's still a ways away with his changeup, he's coming close to becoming comfortable with it.
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