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Old 07-20-2004, 12:33 PM
habibharu habibharu is offline
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Default whats up with josh stewart?

wasnt this guy supposed to be like buehrle? what happened to him? is he still a legitimate SP prospect?
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Old 07-20-2004, 12:40 PM
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wasnt this guy supposed to be like buehrle? what happened to him? is he still a legitimate SP prospect?
Supposed to be like Buehrle? No. He was a poor-man's Mark Buehrle, but he'd never had anywhere near the kind of success Buehrle had in the minors, and after getting drilled by that line-drive, it took him a long time to be back to 100%. IMO, he's never been much of a prospect as a starter, but he could have had a LH'd long-relief role with a team.

As a soft-tosser, you absolutely have to have pinpoint control and still find a way to keep hitters off-balance, and I don't think Stewart has ever been anything but average at either of those things.
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Old 07-20-2004, 01:41 PM
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All the hype regarding Stewart came from your uninformed media types that blew his 2003 Arizona Fall League performance way out of proportion. They neglected to mention that he's older than Buehrle and in no way has as good of an arm. Maybe he could be a Jamie Moyer-type, but that's asking a lot.
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Old 07-20-2004, 01:46 PM
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All the hype regarding Stewart came from your uninformed media types that blew his 2003 Arizona Fall League performance way out of proportion.
IIRC Jerry Manuel hyped him a lot in spring training 2003.
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Old 07-21-2004, 01:36 AM
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Supposed to be like Buehrle? No. He was a poor-man's Mark Buehrle, but he'd never had anywhere near the kind of success Buehrle had in the minors, and after getting drilled by that line-drive, it took him a long time to be back to 100%. IMO, he's never been much of a prospect as a starter, but he could have had a LH'd long-relief role with a team.

As a soft-tosser, you absolutely have to have pinpoint control and still find a way to keep hitters off-balance, and I don't think Stewart has ever been anything but average at either of those things.
Outstanding post Randar. This is akin to people comparing Jeremy Reed to Jeff Abbot and Scott Ruffcorn and these atrocious comparisons need to be corrected ASAP in my opinion. Buehrle was dominating AA hitters at 21 wheras Stewart was far less successful as a 23 year old IRRC. You have to pay close attention to (in order of importance) 1) Age 2) Peripheral Stats (BB/K, K/9, HR/IP, etc.) and 3) ERA.
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:10 PM
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Outstanding post Randar. This is akin to people comparing Jeremy Reed to Jeff Abbot and Scott Ruffcorn and these atrocious comparisons need to be corrected ASAP in my opinion. Buehrle was dominating AA hitters at 21 wheras Stewart was far less successful as a 23 year old IRRC. You have to pay close attention to (in order of importance) 1) Age 2) Peripheral Stats (BB/K, K/9, HR/IP, etc.) and 3) ERA.
So Jeremy Reed can't throw strikes? I'll agree, comparing him to Scott Ruffcorn is atrocious.
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