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Old 03-11-2004, 12:05 PM
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"Have you ever heard the Yankees talk about on-base percentage and walks?" [Baker] said.
Guess which team lead the AL in OBP and walks the past two years combined.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:07 PM
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Guess which team lead the AL in OBP and walks the past two years combined.
i'm not a baker fan myself
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:11 PM
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Guess which team lead the AL in OBP and walks the past two years combined.
They don't talk about it, they just do it...


What are these numbers you talk about? The only number that matters is homeruns!
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:18 PM
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Guess which team lead the AL in OBP and walks the past two years combined.
Flim Flam Dusty, is really not that smart a fellow. I can tell he was just a dumb athlete growing up, and is now a Dumb Baseball "lifer" disguised as a manager. From his "history" lessons to ridiculous statements, this guy is plain embarrassing.
Im very glad he didnt end up a Sox manager, fitting hes up north
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Old 03-11-2004, 01:28 PM
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Actually they did talk about it last year when nick johnson had a terrible batting average but had a good on base percentage because of all of his walks.
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Old 03-11-2004, 04:06 PM
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Im the new guy in town

Anyhoo

i hate baker
He is a cub what more can i say
Plus he is just annoying with the toothpick in mouth thing
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Old 03-11-2004, 04:48 PM
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Sadly, every Cub fan will buy into that and seriously think the Yankees can't get on base.
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Old 03-11-2004, 04:50 PM
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Sadly, every Cub fan will buy into that and seriously think the Yankees can't get on base.
lol, yeah right
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:06 PM
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Baker agreed that stats like on-base percentage can be overdone.

"Computers make it easier to come up with these numbers and make it possible to overanalyze," he said. "Before you had to do it by pencil, and then the calculator, and now the computer spits it out. Everybody can't hit like that. Are you going to tell Vladimir Guerrero to take more walks?"

Baker asked rhetorically who have been the world champions most often the last eight years.

"Have you ever heard the Yankees talk about on-base percentage and walks?" he said. "Walks help, but you don't walk across the plate. You have to [run] across the plate. Getting a guy's pitch count up? Yeah, I agree with that but it depends on the hitter.

"Everybody can't hit with two strikes. Everybody can't walk. You're taking away some of the aggressiveness from a kid when you tell him to go up there and work for a walk."
Actually, if you read his WHOLE comment, it makes sense. There are some things that a computer cannot explain. Not everything a #3 or a #5 hitter would translate equally if that guy were placed in the leadoff spot, or the #8 spot for that matter.

Sometimes trying to understand the point someone is trying to make makes more sense than trying to pick apart every single word or sentence individually.
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:09 PM
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Actually, if you read his WHOLE comment, it makes sense. There are some things that a computer cannot explain. Not everything a #3 or a #5 hitter would translate equally if that guy were placed in the leadoff spot, or the #8 spot for that matter.

Sometimes trying to understand the point someone is trying to make makes more sense than trying to pick apart every single word or sentence individually.

Its still a stupid statement. Why are you twisting things to make Dusted Baking Soda look smarter than he really is? Are you his PR man?
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:11 PM
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Well, I hope Mr. Baker learns his lesson when he sees 1932 replayed before his eyes.
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:11 PM
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Guys like Baker never learn.
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:16 PM
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I didn't criticize (and don't disagree with) his point re. walks. I criticized his position that the Yankees don't care about OBP or walks, a completely separate proposition that clearly is untrue and does not support the rest of his claims.

Then again, Baker doesn't really care if his statements are untrue. He just likes the sound of his own voice, an infatuation shared by the Chicago media.
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:16 PM
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Its still a stupid statement. Why are you twisting things to make Dusted Baking Soda look smarter than he really is? Are you his PR man?
"Dusted Baking Soda"? That's a pretty crazy nickname, dude.
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:17 PM
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Its still a stupid statement. Why are you twisting things to make Dusted Baking Soda look smarter than he really is? Are you his PR man?
Not at all...... I just happen to be objective enough to evaluate something regardless if a Cub or a Yankee or Peter Gammons says it. Dusty has said some really dumb things in the past, but I don't think is on par with them. His point is valid. It is easy to pick out one sentence out of a statement and take it out of context.

Going further back in the story, the comment was made because someone suggested Moises Alou should be the Cubs leadoff hitter because some statistical analysis said so.

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General manager Jim Hendry laughed at a statistical-analysis book that used on-base percentage to suggest Moises Alou should be the leadoff hitter.

"Those things are written by guys who never have been in a dugout," Hendry said.

Baker agreed that stats like on-base percentage can be overdone.
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