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Old 09-07-2003, 12:58 PM
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The Sox stacked their rotation for the four games with the Twins and I assume that if they have to, they'll do it again for the final four games in Kansas City.

But what happens if they need to play a game on the 29th to determine who goes to the playoffs?

Certainly Manager Gandhi wouldn't pitch Danny Wright would he?

His only other option would be going with the Thursday starter on three days rest.

Neither option is exactly comforting is it? It's about now that you realize the Sox should have taken care of the 5th starter problem a LONG time ago. It's obviously coming into play in the final few weeks.

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Old 09-07-2003, 01:26 PM
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Old 09-07-2003, 04:15 PM
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I'd assume it'd be Buehrle on three days rest if the rotation stands as is
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Old 09-08-2003, 08:57 AM
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The Sox stacked their rotation for the four games with the Twins and I assume that if they have to, they'll do it again for the final four games in Kansas City.

But what happens if they need to play a game on the 29th to determine who goes to the playoffs?

Certainly Manager Gandhi wouldn't pitch Danny Wright would he?

His only other option would be going with the Thursday starter on three days rest.

Neither option is exactly comforting is it? It's about now that you realize the Sox should have taken care of the 5th starter problem a LONG time ago. It's obviously coming into play in the final few weeks.

Lip
It's obviously coming into play because ... the Sox might have a one game playoff after the season? That is, statistically speaking, a pretty unlikely occurrence, so I don't think it's accurate to say that that remote possibility makes it obvious that the 5th starter situation is coming into play.
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Old 09-08-2003, 09:42 AM
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I'd assume it'd be Buehrle on three days rest if the rotation stands as is
Actually, Burly could go on 4 days rest on the 29th if the rotation stays the way it is.


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The Sox stacked their rotation for the four games with the Twins and I assume that if they have to, they'll do it again for the final four games in Kansas City.

But what happens if they need to play a game on the 29th to determine who goes to the playoffs?

Certainly Manager Gandhi wouldn't pitch Danny Wright would he?

His only other option would be going with the Thursday starter on three days rest.

Neither option is exactly comforting is it? It's about now that you realize the Sox should have taken care of the 5th starter problem a LONG time ago. It's obviously coming into play in the final few weeks.

Lip
I'm not sure Jerry will be able to mess with the rotation too much throughout the rest of the year. Right now they are lined up to hav Loazia, Colon & Burly go against NY. At the same time Minny and KC are playing Cleveland and Detroit. Which series is more important, the NY series or the KC series?

I think right now they either go to a 4-man rotation, or hope that Wright can pitch well enough against Boston and KC (twice) to keep them in each game...
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Old 09-08-2003, 12:31 PM
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Hold:

I seem to recall a guy named Danny Wright having to pitch yesterday and I seem to recall reading where he may get another start in Boston this weekend if the rotation set up holds.

Having to rely on Danny Wright to pitch well with three weeks left in a pennent race where every game is the difference between first and second place IS having a 5th starter spot come into play.

It should have been solved months ago so that the Sox wouldn't have to be in this position and it could have been easily solved by trading away another two or three "can't miss kids."

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Old 09-08-2003, 12:43 PM
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Lip,
The thing is who was on the Market? Jeff Suppan? Kevin Appier? The difference between these guys and Danny Wright is hardly worth a avg single A ball player. Plus rumor has it that the Sox were prepared to trade for one of Zona's Big Two but the deal fell apart when Zona got back into the race. Now that would have made a major impact on the race, Jeff Suppan doesn't.
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Old 09-08-2003, 12:43 PM
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For what its worth, Danny Wright did his job well yesterday
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Old 09-08-2003, 12:47 PM
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He did...and he also did his job horribly for the three or four months prior to that.

The Sox shouldn't have to have had to shoot craps with Danny Wright given what's at stake.

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Old 09-08-2003, 01:03 PM
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Yeah, I'm nervous as hell its all going to go to pieces every time he has a start at this point
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Old 09-08-2003, 01:51 PM
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There was an article in either the Times or Tribune (don't remember which) that mentioned with the one more off-day Jerry could skip Wright's start in Boston but that Colon, Burly and Garland would all have to pitch on three days rest.

I'm not sure which would be better, letting Wright pitch the first game and Colon and Burly go on 4-days rest, or the above mentioned plan...
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Old 09-08-2003, 02:08 PM
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He did...and he also did his job horribly for the three or four months prior to that.

The Sox shouldn't have to have had to shoot craps with Danny Wright given what's at stake.

Lip
Please, name me a team that has a solid, reliable, 5th starter. Sure, it would be nice to have one, but it's not like we're the only ones here. 5th starters are 5th starters for a reason, they usually aren't very good.
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Old 09-08-2003, 04:52 PM
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Anew says: "Please, name me a team that has a solid, reliable, 5th starter. Sure, it would be nice to have one, but it's not like we're the only ones here. 5th starters are 5th starters for a reason, they usually aren't very good.

That's my point new, how much of an advantage would the Sox have now if there 5th starters were not 3-10 in 25 games?

I'm not saying get a twenty game winner just go out and get a guy who can win you eight to eleven games.

The Sox have had them before Koosman in 83, Sanderson in 94.

Then you have 1996 when the Sox blew a Wild Card spot because they DID NOT have one. They went like 4-15 with Mike Bertotti the "ace" with two wins.

Guys were available, the Sox ignored them. I just hope this doesn't come back to hammer them big time (It already has I guess...)

Just something to consider next season before the Sox again hope guys like Wright, Cotts, Adkins etc are going to bail them out of losing Colon AND trying to fill the 5th spot.

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Old 09-08-2003, 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Lip Man 1
The Sox stacked their rotation for the four games with the Twins and I assume that if they have to, they'll do it again for the final four games in Kansas City.

But what happens if they need to play a game on the 29th to determine who goes to the playoffs?

Certainly Manager Gandhi wouldn't pitch Danny Wright would he?

His only other option would be going with the Thursday starter on three days rest.

Neither option is exactly comforting is it? It's about now that you realize the Sox should have taken care of the 5th starter problem a LONG time ago. It's obviously coming into play in the final few weeks.

Lip

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Old 09-08-2003, 05:12 PM
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Lip,
The thing is who was on the Market? Jeff Suppan? Kevin Appier? The difference between these guys and Danny Wright is hardly worth a avg single A ball player. Plus rumor has it that the Sox were prepared to trade for one of Zona's Big Two but the deal fell apart when Zona got back into the race. Now that would have made a major impact on the race, Jeff Suppan doesn't.
IIRC, we're on Curt Schilling's list of teams that he can't be traded to without approval
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