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Old 02-22-2003, 06:53 PM
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Not sure if it might have been posted earlier, I looked but didn't see anything about it.

Anyways the jist of it is he's still upset about the contract, but what'd ya expect?

"I won't hit .250 again," said Thomas phew


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ite_sox_thomas
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Old 02-22-2003, 07:11 PM
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Not sure if it might have been posted earlier, I looked but didn't see anything about it.

Anyways the jist of it is he's still upset about the contract, but what'd ya expect?

"I won't hit .250 again," said Thomas phew


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ite_sox_thomas

As I am typing this Frank is getting ripped on the Score, which is one of the local sports radio shows.

I'm sure the papers will be ripping him tomorrow.
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Old 02-22-2003, 07:12 PM
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Sounds like if Frank bounces back like we all want this year. Next year he may be somewhere else.
P.S. He must live quite a lifestyle.
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Old 02-22-2003, 07:33 PM
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Sounds like if Frank bounces back like we all want this year. Next year he may be somewhere else.
P.S. He must live quite a lifestyle.
A lot will of course depend on how well Frank does this season. But Frank should have learned over this off season that there isn't much demand for DHs. I fully expect though that if Frank does well Frank will explore the market, and get offers from Boston or a couple other AL teams but in the end the Sox will do what it takes to keep Frank.

The deal Frank signed with the team option of the so-called "Diminished Skills Clause" was one that perfectly fine when Frank agreed to it. If Frank didn't like it then, he shouldn't have signed it.

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Old 02-22-2003, 07:37 PM
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A lot will of course depend on how well Frank does this season. But Frank should have learned over this off season that there isn't much demand for DHs. I fully expect though that if Frank does well Frank will explore the market, and get offers from Boston or a couple other AL teams but in the end the Sox will do what it takes to keep Frank.

The deal Frank signed with the team option of the so-called "Diminished Skills Clause" was one that perfectly fine when Frank agreed to it. If Frank didn't like it then, he shouldn't have signed it.
It's funny. There is only one other guy with the Sox you can always count on to stick his foot in his mouth more consistently than Frank Thomas.


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Old 02-22-2003, 08:56 PM
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The SCORE-warts radio 670-the #1 reason NOT to speak to the press. I still cant believe anyone would have signed a contract with that clause in it.
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:13 PM
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By Thomas' comments, it sure seems like he wants to take advantage of the "new" contract. He wants to play more 1b and beef his numbers up. Watch, thomas will put up monster numbers and demand at least what he was getting or get more elsewhere. Chances are it will be elsewhere.


Frank who?
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:41 PM
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By Thomas' comments, it sure seems like he wants to take advantage of the "new" contract. He wants to play more 1b and beef his numbers up. Watch, thomas will put up monster numbers and demand at least what he was getting or get more elsewhere. Chances are it will be elsewhere.


Frank who?
So what did Frank actually say? It seems to me that he was probably asked what he thought about his new deal and he said that he didn't like the fact that the Sox invoked the diminished skills clause when he was coming off an injury (true) and that this contract is a whole lot worse for him (overall) than the last one (also true) even with the incentives.

He also said he's not going to worry about that or about Paul Konerko, or about anything else, and that he's going to prove that he's still the same player he was through most of the '90s and in 2000. Anything wrong with that?

Anything wrong with his using some excuse (say money) to psych himself to perform at his old level?

Now let's talk about how Sammy Sosa somehow transformed showing up on time for camp for the first time in years to "coming early."
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:54 PM
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awwwwwwwwwww poor Frank.
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:56 PM
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Frank, shut up already about how you feel "mistreated" and play the damn game. Anyone that gets paid 5 mil a year for being a .252 hitter should consider himself lucky.

If he doesn't like the contract, he shouldn't have signed it. Also, the very fact that he still has to talk about Konerko's comments about what he said last year is not only ridiculous, it's immature. Frank was in a terrible slump and when your in the middle on the lineup, that can hurt a team big time, and if you perfom the way you should, you will never have to worry about "why" you were takin' out of the lineup, or "how" you were mistreated. When you don't comply with what your paid to do, you can't gripe over the organization taking you out. A team should be concerned with winning and not concerned that they may have hurt poor Frank's feelings, boo-hoo.

We all know the old slogan "what have you done for me lately." In Frank Thomas' case all he has done lately is made numerous attempts to disrupt that the chemistry of the team, and completely isololate himself from anything that has to do with a team concept.

"It's a slap in the face, Ive earned the right to be at a certain level and Im not there anymore". Well Frank, your right about one thing, it is a slap in the face, and a well deserved one. Please explain how you have earned the right to be at a certain level when you yourself signed the contract with the diminished skills clause in it, and over the past 2 years you haven proven to fact that yes indeed, your skills have diminshed. He's right hes "not there anymore", and for a player to get paid only about a mil less than Ordonez (a hitter second in the league in RBI's) and 1.2 mil more than Paul Konerko I have no idea how he feels that what has happened to him is unjustified. If HE played the way we all have seen him, he wouldnt be in his poistion, but he hasn't and he complains about 5 mil a year, give me a break.

I'll be as happy as anyone if Frank comes back with a vengeance this year (which I have faith that hes more than capable). If Frank hits .300, 100+ RBI's, 30+ HR's than its more than apparant that he can still be one of the most dominant players in the league, and guess what, there are incentives in his contract that awards him for it.
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:57 PM
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So what did Frank actually say? It seems to me that he was probably asked what he thought about his new deal and he said that he didn't like the fact that the Sox invoked the diminished skills clause when he was coming off an injury (true) and that this contract is a whole lot worse for him (overall) than the last one (also true) even with the incentives.

He also said he's not going to worry about that or about Paul Konerko, or about anything else, and that he's going to prove that he's still the same player he was through most of the '90s and in 2000. Anything wrong with that?

Anything wrong with his using some excuse (say money) to psych himself to perform at his old level?

Now let's talk about how Sammy Sosa somehow transformed showing up on time for camp for the first time in years to "coming early."
It's clear Thomas and KW dont get along at all. KW doesnt want him on this team. And Eventhough Frank says he's not going to worry about it, we all know he took the DSC as a big slap in the face. If he hits .330 with 40+hr and 120 rbi, do you expect him to stay here for less then his old contract? Jerry wont give him a new contract, but the Dodgers will.
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Old 02-22-2003, 11:01 PM
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Now let's talk about how Sammy Sosa somehow transformed showing up on time for camp for the first time in years to "coming early."
What Sosa meant by that was, the camera crew had to come earlier then usual. That self promoting ******* wont dare walk through the gates unless he sees the ESPN van. And he's "OSTOMISTIC" about the coob this year.
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Old 02-22-2003, 11:26 PM
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I'm not offended by Frank's comments, although personally I don't know why he's talking to the press at all at this point. People are reading too far in to this.

And I just love how the article says that Frank was 10 minutes late, then later on saying he had a medical excuse....Why is this news??? It's like they want you tho get angry at Frank first, then cover their ass by saying it was excused, It's almost like They're trying to play mind games.

Now, I don't know why Frank brought up Konerko, but who really cares? Neither one of them are saying its affecting the clubhouse.


670 the Score reads this stuff and just speculates the hell out of it. Whether they should or not, The Sox don't get the luxury of a hometown spin.


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Old 02-22-2003, 11:49 PM
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I'm not offended by Frank's comments, although personally I don't know why he's talking to the press at all at this point. People are reading too far in to this.

And I just love how the article says that Frank was 10 minutes late, then later on saying he had a medical excuse....Why is this news??? It's like they want you tho get angry at Frank first, then cover their ass by saying it was excused, It's almost like They're trying to play mind games.

Now, I don't know why Frank brought up Konerko, but who really cares? Neither one of them are saying its affecting the clubhouse.


670 the Score reads this stuff and just speculates the hell out of it. Whether they should or not, The Sox don't get the luxury of a hometown spin.


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I thought the mention much later that Thomas was late because he was in for treatment was just one more example of the BS we have to put up with. (I'll have a lot more to say about this in the article I submitted to PHG today (before this article came out, believe it or not). I'll have something to say there, too, about the treatment of Thomas vs. Sosa by the media.

My guess is that Thomas mentioned Konerko because a reporter asked, "How are things between you and Paul Konerko these days?" In fact I'm willing to bet that everything Frank had to say was in direct response to a question from one of the gentlemen of the press.

One of the high points I heard this evening on The Score was Jack Ofman (not his real name, but you should get the picture) saying that he asked Jerry Manuel about Frank's being a pain in the ass. Please note that Ofman is a self-proclaimed Cubs fan.

The difference in treatment by the media of this town's two superstars is a farce.
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Old 02-22-2003, 11:57 PM
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FRANK is right ya know i wont hit 250 ever again
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