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Old 11-23-2002, 05:11 PM
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I'll just list a few that I found interesting.

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"How about enforcing the rules on transactions? How does Francisco Rodriguez, who wasn't even on the (Angels') 40-man roster on Sept. 15, manage to get on the playoff roster?
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1. Teams that allow public relations to dictate personnel and organizational decisions.

I cannot believe what the Phillies have done this offseason," says one general manager. "But I almost hope they do end up signing Jim Thome for six years and $90 million, Tom Glavine for four years, David Bell for four years, then wonder what happened three years from now.


"They put all this pressure on themselves by jumping out and tying their credibility to how much money they can spend, without any concern about Thome's back or playing the field in a couple of years.
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Old 11-23-2002, 05:27 PM
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Peter Gammons did a list of 25 things wrong with the game of baseball and surprisingly I think it's dead on. He hits on pretty much all of the problems with how the game is played.

http://msn.espn.go.com/gammons/s/2002/1123/1465346.html
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Old 11-23-2002, 05:31 PM
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Peter Gammons did a list of 25 things wrong with the game of baseball and surprisingly I think it's dead on. He hits on pretty much all of the problems with how the game is played.

http://msn.espn.go.com/gammons/s/2002/1123/1465346.html
Wow, surprisingly I have agree with Gammons as well. Although most of it was from GM's that he talked to.
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Old 11-23-2002, 05:39 PM
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How about this comment?

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24. One National League GM insists "we need stricter consequences for an intentional walk. Should an intentional walk advance all baserunners? Fans should be allowed to enjoy Barry Bonds more, even if it beats us."
If they did this, I'm sure you wouldn't see an increase in pitches 2-3 feet outside the strike zone to hitters like Bonds, just to avoid being classified as 'intentional'.
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Old 11-23-2002, 05:42 PM
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If they did this, I'm sure you wouldn't see an increase in pitches 2-3 feet outside the strike zone to hitters like Bonds, just to avoid being classified as 'intentional'.
To quote Milt Pappas "The game sucks nowadays"
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Old 11-23-2002, 05:44 PM
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If they did this, I'm sure you wouldn't see an increase in pitches 2-3 feet outside the strike zone to hitters like Bonds, just to avoid being classified as 'intentional'.
Yeah, really. If they were ever going to do something like that we would just see more unintentional intentional walks and more HBP's. The guy wears so much armor, might as well just hit him then if you can't give him a free pass.
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Old 11-23-2002, 05:47 PM
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they mention paying closers too much but they dont touch on steroids. big surprise.
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Old 11-23-2002, 05:50 PM
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The only thing that i didn't see on the list would be to schedule a number of games throughout the season as doubleheaders. Tell me a day/night dh wouldn't be feasible on the national holidays or perhaps late in the season when the rosters are expanded (which I agree should be abolished).
Players would prolly object but maybe they wouldn't mind it if they knew that they wouldn't be playing in november.
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Old 11-23-2002, 06:05 PM
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they mention paying closers too much but they dont touch on steroids. big surprise.
Um, maybe because there is no steroid problem in baseball?
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Old 11-23-2002, 06:59 PM
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To quote Milt Pappas "The game sucks nowadays"
Boy, is Milt Pappas the most bitter old man you've ever heard, or what? The guy is still pissing about the ball four call that left him with only a no-hitter and short of a perfect game.

It's been 30 years, Milt. GIVE IT UP!

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Old 11-23-2002, 07:19 PM
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Boy, is Milt Pappas the most bitter old man you've ever heard, or what? The guy is still pissing about the ball four call that left him with only a no-hitter and short of a perfect game.

It's been 30 years, Milt. GIVE IT UP!

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The pitch was low. If Milt was honest, he'd admit he was expecting a charity call from the homeplate ump.
All of that is true,but I do agree with some of his veiws about the state of the game today.

And that line makes for a great quote.
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Old 11-23-2002, 07:23 PM
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How about 2 bases for the batter if it's a four pitch walk?
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Old 11-24-2002, 04:22 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jerry_Manuel
"While we're at it," adds one AL executive, "how about enforcing the rules on transactions? How does Francisco Rodriguez, who wasn't even on the (Angels') 40-man roster on Sept. 15, manage to get on the playoff roster?"


Frankie made it on the playoff roster because two Angels pitchers that played for them during the season got injured - Aaron Sele and Dennis Cook. It makes sense to me - you have to be able to replace your injured guys. Who knew Frankie would be so lights-out?

23. "Uniforms," says one AL executive, "that aren't uniform. What's the definition of 'uniform

Agreed. No one should be able to put their FIRST NAME on their uniform. See a certain Mariners right-fielder....
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Old 11-24-2002, 05:24 PM
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23. "Uniforms," says one AL executive, "that aren't uniform. What's the definition of 'uniform

Agreed. No one should be able to put their FIRST NAME on their uniform. See a certain Mariners right-fielder....
Actually, I find the players wearing their pant-legs anywhere from just beneath the knee down to the bottom of their ankle far more obnoxious than Ichiro's name.

Barry Bonds is the worst. He looks like a frickin' drum major out there. Somebody hand him a baton!
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Old 11-24-2002, 07:02 PM
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Um, maybe because there is no steroid problem in baseball?
LOL....

I won't even talk about the steroid problems I knew about in high school.
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