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Old 07-29-2018, 08:51 PM
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This week, the Sox have acquired two pitchers: Kodi Medeiros and Caleb Frare. Both, if reports I’ve seen are correct, will need to be on the 40-man or be exposed to the Rule 5 draft. Could they be two pieces of next year’s big league bullpen? Lord knows I wouldn’t mind seeing some new faces out there.
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Old 07-29-2018, 08:53 PM
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Absolutely - anyone could be. Next year may look a lot like this year. Let’s hope they each show enough between now and opening day to tell us.
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Old 07-29-2018, 09:38 PM
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I know some are saying that the bullpen isn't important when you are "rebuilding." I say bull****.

It's important because the fans and the players themselves need to see some actual progress during the rebuild. Progress is often measured by wins and losses.

In my opinion since I don't think the Sox have a real chance at any of the top / superstar free agents, I think it is important that they get some useful pieces that can make a difference in wins / losses.

Generally a good bullpen makes a big difference in that statistic.

So I hope the Sox can get three or four who can actually pitch instead of the cast-off's, retreads and never-were's we've been seeing for the past few years.

With little money on the books they can afford to do this and in two years time if the Sox are actually good they can have some guys in that pen who can actually contribute to the franchise moving forward.

And if the Sox still suck they may be able to ship those guys out for young potential pieces.
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Old 07-29-2018, 09:50 PM
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It would certainly be nice to find an internal piece next year who has both the physical and mental make-up to be a successful MLB closer which would allow us to start working backwards to put together a decent pen for when the time arrives that we are supposed to be competitive.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:01 PM
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This week, the Sox have acquired two pitchers: Kodi Medeiros and Caleb Frare. Both, if reports I’ve seen are correct, will need to be on the 40-man or be exposed to the Rule 5 draft. Could they be two pieces of next year’s big league bullpen? Lord knows I wouldn’t mind seeing some new faces out there.
They could be - I hope Medieros becomes a starter.
And the guys who are in the pen now like Avilan and Cedeno, even if not traded, can just taken off the 40 so that they don't crowd out prospects. Then just resign them, or others, after the Rule 5 draft.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:51 AM
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Frare looks like a good candidate.

Low risk deal, no players were sacrificed in the deal on our end.
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:08 PM
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So I hope the Sox can get three or four who can actually pitch instead of the cast-off's, retreads and never-were's we've been seeing for the past few years.
The caveat is that in a bullpen, these guys occasionally catch fire and end up producing solid seasons. Jon Rauch was a reliable bullpen arm for somebody else just a few years ago.
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:19 PM
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The Sox have quite a few high line pitching prospects that wont be a starter. Fulmer looks one and more to come.
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The Sox have quite a few high line pitching prospects that wont be a starter. Fulmer looks one and more to come.
If only Fulmer looked like a reliever!
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Old 07-30-2018, 07:49 PM
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No shortage of candidates for next year's pen:

Hamilton
Burdi
Covey
Stephens
Danish
Vieira
Adams
Fulmer
Ruiz
Burr

Fry
Avilan
Cedeno
Bummer
Medeiros
Frare
Guerrero
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:33 PM
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No shortage of candidates for next year's pen:

Hamilton
Burdi
Covey
Stephens
Danish
Vieira
Adams
Fulmer
Ruiz
Burr

Fry
Avilan
Cedeno
Bummer
Medeiros
Frare
Guerrero
Don't forget Gio. He'll get a shot to start the year in the rotation, but if he continues pitching like garbage he will swiftly be moved to the pen next year.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:39 PM
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I know some are saying that the bullpen isn't important when you are "rebuilding." I say bull****.

It's important because the fans and the players themselves need to see some actual progress during the rebuild. Progress is often measured by wins and losses.

In my opinion since I don't think the Sox have a real chance at any of the top / superstar free agents, I think it is important that they get some useful pieces that can make a difference in wins / losses.

Generally a good bullpen makes a big difference in that statistic.

So I hope the Sox can get three or four who can actually pitch instead of the cast-off's, retreads and never-were's we've been seeing for the past few years.

With little money on the books they can afford to do this and in two years time if the Sox are actually good they can have some guys in that pen who can actually contribute to the franchise moving forward.

And if the Sox still suck they may be able to ship those guys out for young potential pieces.
I can list you 10 things that need to get in order and done right before I begin to worry about a bullpen.

Been watching baseball all my life to know that bullpens are the most volatile position in the whole sport.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:58 PM
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Old 07-30-2018, 09:11 PM
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I actually think we have a good bullpen next year
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Old 07-30-2018, 09:54 PM
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I actually think we have a good bullpen next year
I don't. very few of those names posted excite me.

Keep urinating games away next year and fans are going to openly start to question this 'rebuild."

Like it or not the Sox MUST start to show some progress next year in the win / lost column ESPECIALLY if you want to really get quality free agent interested.

Just my opinion.
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