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Old 10-24-2017, 02:00 PM
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His bat has been good enough for teams to look past his deficiencies. If he's somehow still around for the Sox 2nd round pick I wouldn't be shocked if they take a hard look at him. He really has the potential to be an impact bat at DH.
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Right. Second round is a good pick up. I wouldn't mind it then, but an early pick where we are makes no sense.
Kind of like a position player version of Alec Hansen? Someone who was once pegged for the top of the draft, but who fell after not living up to expectations. Landing Beer in the second round would be a big deal.
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Old 10-24-2017, 02:30 PM
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Kind of like a position player version of Alec Hansen? Someone who was once pegged for the top of the draft, but who fell after not living up to expectations. Landing Beer in the second round would be a big deal.
Completely agree. I am not talking about that. I feel like some are having an internal debate about drafting him at our current position.
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Old 10-24-2017, 03:02 PM
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Still not sure why people are saying to draft for position with the 4th overall pick. Thatís completely ludicrous! Draft the best player available I donít care if that is a 1b, of, dh or any other position we have a surplus.

Once these guys start to come up and start competing thatís when you start to trade the surplus for what the big club needs to put them over the top.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:39 PM
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Completely agree. I am not talking about that. I feel like some are having an internal debate about drafting him at our current position.
Agreed, based on what we know now. But there's still a full season of amateur ball to play before the draft.

If Beer comes out and hits .400 with lots of extra base hits this year, with low strikeout totals and a high walk rate, shows some defensive improvement at first base, and leads his team into the NCAA postseason, and he's sitting there when we're on the clock at #4, and all the other highly-rated prospects for various reasons don't have great high school/college seasons in Spring 2018, don't we have to at least consider drafting him?
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Old 10-25-2017, 11:13 AM
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Agreed, based on what we know now. But there's still a full season of amateur ball to play before the draft.

If Beer comes out and hits .400 with lots of extra base hits this year, with low strikeout totals and a high walk rate, shows some defensive improvement at first base, and leads his team into the NCAA postseason, and he's sitting there when we're on the clock at #4, and all the other highly-rated prospects for various reasons don't have great high school/college seasons in Spring 2018, don't we have to at least consider drafting him?

Not even a question. If he is great this season, he automatically contends to be picked up in the early rounds.

Again, I wonder if there is a possibility he could be taught to field. I know it seems impossible, but just wondering.
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Old 10-26-2017, 11:06 AM
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Jimenez doing great so far in Winter Ball:

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/259664...-hitting-well/
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Old 10-26-2017, 11:24 AM
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Jimenez doing great so far in Winter Ball:

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/259664...-hitting-well/
Of course he needs to show the same in AA and AAA, but if he keeps on this torrid pace, I don't see how he isn't a callup in 2018. The more I look at him, the more I'm thinking "superstar"...but I'm trying to reign in that optimism.
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:37 PM
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Of course he needs to show the same in AA and AAA, but if he keeps on this torrid pace, I don't see how he isn't a callup in 2018. The more I look at him, the more I'm thinking "superstar"...but I'm trying to reign in that optimism.
I also think "superstar". Just roll with it. It's been a helluva a long time since we've had a position player this highly touted. I mean, besides Moncada, but he felt like more of a 'finished product' or at least he was closer to making it to the big leagues when he was acquired.

Hindsight being 20/20, I wonder if Cubs fans have a tinge of regret. They have an OF spot opening up and I know Eloy isn't supposed to be that great with a glove, but he'd probably be an improvement over Schwarber. Jiminez/Happ/Almora would like pretty good to them. With that said, they have Q at such a ridiculously low cost that it enables them to spend elsewhere.
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:30 AM
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Some Cubs fans I've spoken with are a little regretful they had to give up Jiminez, but again they also know Quintana is extremely valuable given his age and contract. They'd be in a very bad spot without him on the roster going into next season.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:48 PM
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Eloy has an 11 game hitting streak right now.

Seriously. I. Canít. Wait.
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Old 11-15-2017, 03:47 PM
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Rick Hahn had some great things to say about Micker Adolfo in a Fangraphs article today: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/gene...low-the-radar/

Also the White Sox Talk Podcast had Aaron Rowand on as a guest, who couldn't stop praising Luis Robert: http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/tag...x-talk-podcast

Rowand made the claim that Robert has an arm that's at least as good as Vlad Guerrero's and Jesse Barfield's. That's a huuuuuuge claim to make IMO...

Finally, Eloy continues to absolutely kill it wherever he goes: http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox...s-winter-heat/

He's going to force the team's hand next season IMO.
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Old 11-16-2017, 01:15 PM
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White Sox add another power arm to the system by trading international money to the Mariners for Thyago Vieira. Sounds like a character out of Shakespeare.

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...picId=27118146

From the MLB prospect listing for the Mariners... whoops... make that White Sox... was listed as #8 for Mariners. Now listed as #20 for White Sox.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=cws


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Thyago Vieira | Rank: 20 (Preseason: 13 - SEA)
Team: Chicago White Sox ETA: 2017
Position: RHP Age: 24 DOB: 07/01/1993
Bats: R Throws: R Height: 6' 2" Weight: 210 lb.
Signed: Sept. 21, 2010 - SEA

Scouting grades: Fastball: 80 | Curveball: 55 | Control: 45 | Overall: 45

Signed out of Brazil by the Mariners in 2010, Vieira made his U.S. debut as a starter in '13 and shifted to bullpen the following year in low Class A. After battling control problems the next two years, he broke out in 2016 and made his big league debut this August. The White Sox acquired him in November in exchange for international bonus pool money.

Vieira lights up radar guns better than most pitchers, sitting consistently at 97-100 mph and touching 102. His power curveball in the low 80s has come on strong in the last year, giving him the requisite two pitches to profile as a late-inning arm in the big leagues.

The right-hander also has made gains with his control, though his overall efficiency, especially in terms of getting ahead of hitters, leaves much to be desired. He'll compete for a full-time role in Chicago's bullpen during Spring Training and could be a future closer if he learns to command his pitches better.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:31 PM
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Rick Hahn had some great things to say about Micker Adolfo in a Fangraphs article today: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/gene...low-the-radar/

Also the White Sox Talk Podcast had Aaron Rowand on as a guest, who couldn't stop praising Luis Robert: http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/tag...x-talk-podcast

Rowand made the claim that Robert has an arm that's at least as good as Vlad Guerrero's and Jesse Barfield's. That's a huuuuuuge claim to make IMO...

Finally, Eloy continues to absolutely kill it wherever he goes: http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox...s-winter-heat/

He's going to force the team's hand next season IMO.
With Jimenez, Robert, Rutherford, and Adolfo in the pipeline, the Sox could very well have an All-Star outfield by 2020. I know that's a lofty projection, but what the heck, it's a cold, gray November day - may as well dream of what things could be like in summer 2020.
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:09 PM
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White Sox add another power arm to the system by trading international money to the Mariners for Thyago Vieira. Sounds like a character out of Shakespeare.

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...picId=27118146

From the MLB prospect listing for the Mariners... whoops... make that White Sox... was listed as #8 for Mariners. Now listed as #20 for White Sox.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=cws
Two solid years in a row in the minors and an 80 grade fastball. I am surprised and impressed that they could pick up a player like that for cash.
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Old 11-17-2017, 01:29 PM
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BP's top 10 is out: https://www.baseballprospectus.com/p...-10-prospects/

Eloy Jimenez, OF
Michael Kopech, RHP
Alec Hansen, RHP
Dylan Cease, RHP
Luis Robert, OF
Jake Burger, 3B
Dane Dunning, RHP
Blake Rutherford, OF
Zack Collins, C
Carson Fulmer, RHP
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