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Old 07-27-2014, 04:08 PM
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We take the lead and promptly give it away, anyone know how many late inning leads we have blown this year?
Did anyone really expect DeAza or Beckham to get a hit with the bags loaded in the 9th? Tank tanked also with first and third with no outs.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:13 PM
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DeAza batting up there in the 9th inning was horrendous to watch. Even the Twins announcers couldn't believe Ventura let him bat in that situation. Sadly that's not really a surprise unfortunately...
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:15 PM
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Default Belisario is a BUM

If you get first and third and nobody out and you can't score, you deserve to lose. That being said I hope Belisario is moved off this team at the deadline this week. He scares me to death every time he takes the mound. Also, why didn't Flowers hit for DeAza in the ninth inning?

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Old 07-27-2014, 04:18 PM
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I think this will be a quiet trade deadline for us, seeing as how all of the contracts coming off of the books are dead weight. Viciedo might get traded, but the already thin outfield gets even worse.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:23 PM
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Why is a .083 hitter against lefties hitting in the 9th inning down a run?
Ventura just keeps making these rookie mistakes.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:23 PM
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If you get first and third and nobody out and you can't score, you deserve to lose. That being said I hope Belisario is moved off this team at the deadline this week. He scares me to death every time he takes the mound.
I know we won't see Dunn back - or highly unlikely because I doubt he'll take the amount of money we'd likely offer - but I sure hope De Aza and Belisario go with him. We can get someone to do better out of the pen than he has for 1/3 or 2/3 the cost. We can do the same in the OF using someone making less than De Aza is.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:34 PM
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Belisario in a one-run game baffles me. And 7 losses should probably be enough to designate him for assignment. He's been iffy all year and eventually, that has to be enough before he blows more saves.

Oh well. At least I got on the video board at Target Field. And my cousin's kid should experience a win at his first Twins game I suppose.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:43 PM
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Why Bellasario is still on this team, let alone put into 1 - run games is beyond me.. Pathetic to think that's the best the Sox can do...
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:46 PM
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DeAza batting up there in the 9th inning was horrendous to watch. Even the Twins announcers couldn't believe Ventura let him bat in that situation. Sadly that's not really a surprise unfortunately...
Was there anyone else left on the bench? Flowers I guess?
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:48 PM
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Why Bellasario is still on this team, let alone put into 1 - run games is beyond me.. Pathetic to think that's the best the Sox can do...
Lets get our story straight. He can only pitch in even-numbered innings. Yeah, that's it.

Or, faced with a bullpen choice of Thing I through Thing V, does it matter?
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:29 PM
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Was there anyone else left on the bench? Flowers I guess?
That was it. Unless Flowers can suddenly play the outfield, Ventura couldn't have sent up anyone else.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:35 PM
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I loved Ventura as a player. As a manager so far, he's had his troubles.

I didn't watch the entire game today, but one thing I saw that bothered me was Ventura's response, or lack of, during the rubber band incident.

The umps went out to talk to Belisario for a couple of minutes. Robin just stood there in the dugout and didn't do anything. I'm not sure how much of a command of the English language Belisario has. Nieto went out to the mound as well, presumably to help. The entire time, Ventura stood in the dugout while the umps were dressing down Belisario. Finally Belisario came walking over to the dugout to ask for help, which was to cut off the rubber band. Ventura should have been out there at the mound counseling his guy while the ump was there. I just don't understand how he let that happen. If you know you reliever might be shaken up by something like that, you go out and calm the situation down. That was just a terrible indictment of Robin, and nobody mentioned it. Can't believe he wouldn't run out there and at least want to know what was going on. Sometimes he comes off like a spectator in the Club Level and not the manager. Ozzie was also not perfect, but you can bet your ass Ozzie would have run out there to check on the situation.
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That was it. Unless Flowers can suddenly play the outfield, Ventura couldn't have sent up anyone else.
Which is why he shouldn't have pinch run for two batters in a row.

For some reason, this game was even more disheartening than other similarly disappointing losses. The Sox had a great chance to pull off a four-game sweep on the road to get within two of .500. Instead, they blew it two different ways, with yet another blown game by the bullpen and then failing to score one run with men on first and third, nobody out.

Hahn has done a great job increasing the talent level on this team, and will presumably continue to do so...but games like this make it hard to believe this team could put together the elusive two consecutive playoff seasons, even with the expanded Wild Card system.

Ugh.
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I loved Ventura as a player. As a manager so far, he's had his troubles.

I didn't watch the entire game today, but one thing I saw that bothered me was Ventura's response, or lack of, during the rubber band incident
Agreed, although I thought the worst move was using Sierra to pinch run for Konerko. I understand Konerko is slower than a dead donkey, but he was the go-ahead run, not the tying run, and the first priority down one in the ninth is to make sure you get the game tied. To that end, I would have preferred to save Sierra to pinch-hit for De Aza, who was a bad bet to do anything against the left-handed Perkins. I would have felt better about Sierra against Perkins than De Aza against Perkins.

Of course, that whole scenario could have been avoided if Viciedo had done his job. That was a terrible AB on his part, and IMO, it changed the complexion of the inning. I'm ready to move on from Tank, and the reason is his one-size-fits-all approach at the plate. He just has the look of a guy who doesn't look for pitches. He just looks for the ball, and he swings as hard as he can and hopes it hits his bat. He was trying to hit a 3-run HR in that situation, when all the Sox really needed was for him to make contact and tie the game. He refuses to tailor his approach to the situation, and it just drives me crazy watching him corkscrew himself into the ground trying to be a hero up there.
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I loved Ventura as a player. As a manager so far, he's had his troubles.

I didn't watch the entire game today, but one thing I saw that bothered me was Ventura's response, or lack of, during the rubber band incident.

The u there in the dugout and didning.'t do anyth mps went out to talk to Belisario for a couple of minutes. Robin just stoodI'm not sure how much of a command of the English language Belisario has. Nieto went out to the mound as well, presumably to help. The entire time, Ventura stood in the dugout while the umps were dressing down Belisario. Finally Belisario came walking over to the dugout to ask for help, which was to cut off the rubber band. Ventura should have been out there at the mound counseling his guy while the ump was there. I just don't understand how he let that happen. If you know you reliever might be shaken up by something like that, you go out and calm the situation down. That was just a terrible indictment of Robin, and nobody mentioned it. Can't believe he wouldn't run out there and at least want to know what was going on. Sometimes he comes off like a spectator in the Club Level and not the manager. Ozzie was also not perfect, but you can bet your ass Ozzie would have run out there to check on the situation.
And your surprised at this..??
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