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Old 07-21-2014, 08:44 AM
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14, 56 and 13 will be retired.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:52 AM
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Is there going to be some type of ceremony for Konerko during the last homestand? Will there be a Paul Konerko Day? If the White Sox are going to do something for Konerko wouldn't it make sense to announce it now?
I'm guessing they didn't schedule anything at the beginning of the year on the offhand chance he didn't finish the season. Assuming things don't go haywire (season ending injury, 0-30 slump, etc.) over the next month in August they'll announce something for the final Sunday home game.
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Old 07-21-2014, 10:15 AM
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I'm guessing they didn't schedule anything at the beginning of the year on the offhand chance he didn't finish the season. Assuming things don't go haywire (season ending injury, 0-30 slump, etc.) over the next month in August they'll announce something for the final Sunday home game.
I'm hoping they do something for him that Saturday night game. That Sunday the Bears play the Packers at noon. Paulie deserves to be in the spotlight for all he's done for the team. If they do something for him in the middle of Bears/Packers he will be an afterthought for many people.
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Old 07-21-2014, 10:30 AM
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Definitely Konerko; Buehrle? Honestly, I'm not sure if they will.
I think they will, first and foremost, Buehrle was a tremendous pitcher here for a long time, he was/is a fan favorite, and there was absolutely no animosity between him and the Sox over how he left; JR basically told him to take the money.
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Is there going to be some type of ceremony for Konerko during the last homestand? Will there be a Paul Konerko Day? If the White Sox are going to do something for Konerko wouldn't it make sense to announce it now?
I'm sure there will be, and I've already acquired tickets for Sat & Sun that weekend in anticipation of such.

As an aside, I got these tix through Stubhub, and Saturday's came with a parking pass which I don't need. If you know you're going to that game (9/27) and would like a parking pass at half off, message me. Further details in the ticket exchange section here.
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Old 07-22-2014, 10:27 AM
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Konerko's is a done deal. (I don't have inside info, but there would be a riot if it doesn't happen.)

I'm not opposed to Buehrle having his number retired... but before that happens, there's a much better and more deserving White Sox pitcher: Urban "Red" Faber.

His #18 should have been retired a long time ago. Faber played his entire 20-year career with the Sox, compiling a record of 254-213, and a career ERA of 3.15. Granted, he played in the Dead Ball Era, but that's still pretty darn impressive. He also won three games in the 1917 World Series.

Think about this: Here's a Hall of Fame pitcher who played his entire career for the White Sox, and his number isn't retired. There ought to be a groundswell of support for Faber.

If Buehrle is deserving of number retirement, then Faber absolutely is.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:18 AM
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Konerko's is a done deal. (I don't have inside info, but there would be a riot if it doesn't happen.)

I'm not opposed to Buehrle having his number retired... but before that happens, there's a much better and more deserving White Sox pitcher: Urban "Red" Faber.

His #18 should have been retired a long time ago. Faber played his entire 20-year career with the Sox, compiling a record of 254-213, and a career ERA of 3.15. Granted, he played in the Dead Ball Era, but that's still pretty darn impressive. He also won three games in the 1917 World Series.

Think about this: Here's a Hall of Fame pitcher who played his entire career for the White Sox, and his number isn't retired. There ought to be a groundswell of support for Faber.

If Buehrle is deserving of number retirement, then Faber absolutely is.

Faber was on the ticket for last night's game and I made the same remark to my daughter after seeing on the ticket that he played 20 years for the Sox and was in the Hall of Fame.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:46 AM
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Konerko's is a done deal. (I don't have inside info, but there would be a riot if it doesn't happen.)

I'm not opposed to Buehrle having his number retired... but before that happens, there's a much better and more deserving White Sox pitcher: Urban "Red" Faber.

His #18 should have been retired a long time ago. Faber played his entire 20-year career with the Sox, compiling a record of 254-213, and a career ERA of 3.15. Granted, he played in the Dead Ball Era, but that's still pretty darn impressive. He also won three games in the 1917 World Series.

Think about this: Here's a Hall of Fame pitcher who played his entire career for the White Sox, and his number isn't retired. There ought to be a groundswell of support for Faber.

If Buehrle is deserving of number retirement, then Faber absolutely is.
Agreed 100%. I know Red is the only one of our greats from the teens and 20's to make it into the uniform number era which began in 1931. The first 17 seasons he played w/us he had no uniform number.

To go a bit further -- and most on this board disagreed w/me when I mentioned this before -- I've always felt that our old Hall of Fame players from that era have not been recognized enough by the Sox. Luke Appling and Ted Lyons at least have had their numbers retired and their names are therefore visible in the stadium, but Faber and our pre-number HOF'ers like Big Ed Walsh, Eddie Collins and Ray Schalk have no statue and obviously no retired number. They just seem kind of forgotten overall.

The near HOF'ers like Baines, Pierce and Minoso all have statues, but a HOF'er like Big Ed Walsh who has the best ERA in the history of MLB does not? Doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:56 AM
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Agreed 100%. I know Red is the only one of our greats from the teens and 20's to make it into the uniform number era which began in 1931. The first 17 seasons he played w/us he had no uniform number.

To go a bit further -- and most on this board disagreed w/me when I mentioned this before -- I've always felt that our old Hall of Fame players from that era have not been recognized enough by the Sox. Luke Appling and Ted Lyons at least have had their numbers retired and their names are therefore visible in the stadium, but Faber and our pre-number HOF'ers like Big Ed Walsh, Eddie Collins and Ray Schalk have no statue and obviously no retired number. They just seem kind of forgotten overall.

The near HOF'ers like Baines, Pierce and Minoso all have statues, but a HOF'er like Big Ed Walsh who has the best ERA in the history of MLB does not? Doesn't make sense to me.
I'm with you. Ed Walsh has a case as the greatest pitcher in franchise history, yet most Sox fans -- even diehards -- have no idea who he is. For an organization that puts such an emphasis on pride, loyalty, and history, the way the pre-1930s era is ignored (save for the 1906 and 1917 championship banners) is a real shame.

Maybe part of that is a desire to put some distance between the organization and the Black Sox scandal, and I get that to some degree, but for guys like Faber, Walsh, and Collins who had nothing whatsoever to do with all that... it's not right.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:49 PM
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No doubt #14 will be retired. It's been obvious since opening day with the gap they left on the new display of retired numbers.

I wouldn't have a problem with #56 being retired, but I don't think it's a certainty to happen.

#13? No way. If he had a long, distinguished tenure as manager then I'd see it. But, I don't think 2005 plus his career as a SS for the Sox are enough.

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Agreed 100%. I know Red is the only one of our greats from the teens and 20's to make it into the uniform number era which began in 1931. The first 17 seasons he played w/us he had no uniform number.

To go a bit further -- and most on this board disagreed w/me when I mentioned this before -- I've always felt that our old Hall of Fame players from that era have not been recognized enough by the Sox. Luke Appling and Ted Lyons at least have had their numbers retired and their names are therefore visible in the stadium, but Faber and our pre-number HOF'ers like Big Ed Walsh, Eddie Collins and Ray Schalk have no statue and obviously no retired number. They just seem kind of forgotten overall.

The near HOF'ers like Baines, Pierce and Minoso all have statues, but a HOF'er like Big Ed Walsh who has the best ERA in the history of MLB does not? Doesn't make sense to me.
I agree. I've been puzzled as to why Luke Appling - easily one of the greatest Sox players ever - doesn't have a statue. Incredible that the Sox have managed to put eight statues in the concourse and Appling somehow did not make the cut of that honor.

But, I think you're right. His fault is having played before the Go Go era.

He may have played a long time ago, but I still remember him hitting a HR at MLB's old-timers game in 1982 at age 75!
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Old 07-22-2014, 02:26 PM
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In this same vein, will our AL Central counterparts do a "hat tip" in the Sox last road game to their respective towns this year? Seems like it would be a cordial thing to do. We're all competitors in the often overlooked Central and having someone like Paulie who's been such a huge part of one of your main foes finishing his career is worthy of acknowledgement. I'd like to think the Sox would do the same for someone like Mauer in his last game at the Cell if he were to announce his retirement ahead of time.
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I don't like numbers being taken out of the rotation but Paul's number should be on the special wall. I'm one of those people that says if you want to wear number #35 for the Sox, you better be a power hitter and you better live up to those standards. I think it's cool to see other players wear famous players numbers. I'm a big college football fan and I like it seeing great players carry on a tradition with the same number.

The Yankees have gone off the deep end with the retirement of numbers and will never have another single digit player "forever" and that's just silly.

And for the record, no problem with 42 being taken out because it's very cool for 1 game a year everyone wearing 42.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:19 PM
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Put me in the camp of having the Saturday before the last game of the season being "Paul Konerko Day" Saturday night, could get a big crowd for him and a fireworks show after the game to make sure the majority of the crowd stays the whole time.

It'd be sad to see 14,000 people there on Konerkos last game on Sunday.
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Put me in the camp of having the Saturday before the last game of the season being "Paul Konerko Day" Saturday night, could get a big crowd for him and a fireworks show after the game to make sure the majority of the crowd stays the whole time.

It'd be sad to see 14,000 people there on Konerkos last game on Sunday.
Yeah, except in the unlikely (but not implausible) event that the Sox are in the playoff mix on the last day of the season, the crowd will be hugely suppressed due to the Packers playing the Bears a couple miles away at the same time. Paul Konerko Day or no, that crowd is going to be sad.

So yeah, dollars to donuts it's done the day before.
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