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Old 06-22-2014, 05:51 PM
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John Danks is awful. Everything else has pretty much been covered.

He had an awful game but he's not awful. His previous 4 starts were beyond solid against some very tough hitting line ups. He clearly had nothing working today from the get go. It happens.

As so many have said De Aza's bunt was unreal. I had to laugh out loud at the absurdity of it all. Robin looked pissed in the dugout after that.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:01 PM
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One of the worst WSox outfields since the days of Garr/Lemon/Claudell Washington, and Flowers reminds me of the Bruce Kimm/Marv Foley/Mike Colbern era-

Yuck-
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:21 PM
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One of the worst WSox outfields since the days of Garr/Lemon/Claudell Washington, and Flowers reminds me of the Bruce Kimm/Marv Foley/Mike Colbern era-

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Garr and Washington were butchers but at least they could hit.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:26 PM
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Garr and Washington were butchers but at least they could hit.
Washington was the biggest waste of talent I have ever seen in a White Sox uniform.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:13 PM
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Yeah, for all the bad defense and baserunner blunders De Aza has had, last year he set some career highs hitting-wise. Might have had some value then as a fourth outfielder to a contender. Now? No chance. He'll likely play out the rest of the year with the Sox and be let go at the end of the season. If not for the lack of outfield depth in the organization, he'd be a DFA candidate.

Viciedo was given a second chance to play every day as a result of Garcia's injury, and he is blowing it -- one big swing and a miss at a time.
If there's a bright light in all of this (and this was really the goal this season anyway), Hahn has now hopefully identified the next targets he needs to work on at the deadline and over the winter. The plan all along was to give Flowers a real chance after his injury was healed and also to give Viciedo one more chance.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:16 PM
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One of the worst WSox outfields since the days of Garr/Lemon/Claudell Washington, and Flowers reminds me of the Bruce Kimm/Marv Foley/Mike Colbern era-

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I was a fan of Chet Lemon.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:17 PM
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I feel that the worst part about this is that the tradeable pieces at the beginning of the year are no longer tradeable. This is going to be a pretty long July.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:27 PM
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Hawk hit the nail on the head at the end of the game. When I saw the 11-game road trip coming up a few a weeks ago, I figured it had the potential to be rough. However, I never saw a 4-game sweep in Minnesota coming. I don't care how good or bad the Twinks are, I'm also very tired of losing the majority of our games to them for the better part of the last 12 years. It's tiring seeing walks, walks, and more walks, bad defensive play, and the triple-core of suck (De Aza, Viciedo and Flowers). The lone bright spot coming up is Toronto has been struggling lately with Lawrie and Bautista both potentially being on the DL. We never play well in Toronto, but maybe we can earn a split.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:32 PM
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I was a fan of Chet Lemon.
Me too, I'll take an outfield of 3 Chet Lemons.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:33 PM
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If there's a bright light in all of this (and this was really the goal this season anyway), Hahn has now hopefully identified the next targets he needs to work on at the deadline and over the winter. The plan all along was to give Flowers a real chance after his injury was healed and also to give Viciedo one more chance.
This is the perfect way to look at things. De Aza, Viciedo, and Flowers are playing their way out of the team's future plans. It's better to seal their fates now than have any of these three adversely affect things during a more competitive season in 2015, or more realistically, 2016.

A quick glance at next year's free agent catchers really drives home the point of just how difficult it is for a major league GM to fill this position. I'm not going to throw Rick Hahn under the bus for not being able to find one in only one off-season.

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Old 06-22-2014, 07:46 PM
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Pathetic loss of a series by a pathetic team. We need corner outfielders I'd take dank there over deza he can play defense.as far as catcher I believe flowers is there guy. Suzuki was available I believe. They have a ton of holes to fill hope manager is one we are over managed a lot
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:12 PM
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Me too- I don't know how he survived covering for the butchers on either side of him-
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:27 PM
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Chet Lemon was our lone All-Star in both 1978 and 1979
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