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Old 01-15-2014, 05:11 PM
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Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN Here's an in-depth look at the factors in the #WhiteSox chances of signing Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka.


In terms of the money there is more than enough to win, Hahn said last month at the winter meetings. We dont feel any constraint by what were going to be spending. There is absolutely the potential, whether its July or the next offseason, to make that additional long-term impactful signing and well have the wherewithal to do that.

http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/...ka-sweepstakes
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:56 PM
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Kind of a confusing quote, there. Article is saying the Sox could sign Tanaka within 9 days, but the quote talks about making a big signing in mid-season (via trade or trade and sign, I guess) or next off-season. Which if I were the Sox, would make sense...keep that money in your pocket coming off a 99-loss season and see how things unfold over the first half of a season where little is expected before dropping 9 figures on anyone.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:15 PM
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Kind of a confusing quote, there. Article is saying the Sox could sign Tanaka within 9 days, but the quote talks about making a big signing in mid-season (via trade or trade and sign, I guess) or next off-season. Which if I were the Sox, would make sense...keep that money in your pocket coming off a 99-loss season and see how things unfold over the first half of a season where little is expected before dropping 9 figures on anyone.
I think when its mentioned about a possible midseason move, that is dreaming the impossible dream and the Sox are contending at that point.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:53 PM
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I think Hahn fully intends to be in the running, dollar-wise, to sign Tanaka. He didn't sit down the Robin, Kenny, and Tanaka's party just to do due diligence. The dollars were pretty up there before that point.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:00 PM
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They have so many holes. A lot of that money needs to be reinvested in scouting and development.

On the other hand, Reinsdorf's getting older. Maybe his health isn't what it used to be, and he's thinking about selling, or about spending his way back to the WS.

Tanaka's an interesting test case. He's young enough and has a high enough ceiling to fit in either scenario, but the price tag will only make sense for a team trying to contend right away.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:32 PM
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They have so many holes. A lot of that money needs to be reinvested in scouting and development.

On the other hand, Reinsdorf's getting older. Maybe his health isn't what it used to be, and he's thinking about selling, or about spending his way back to the WS.

Tanaka's an interesting test case. He's young enough and has a high enough ceiling to fit in either scenario, but the price tag will only make sense for a team trying to contend right away.
I still don't like the idea of the Sox signing Tanaka to a big contract. Not because he's not good, but he's unproven. With that said, if he pans out, two stud pitchers can take you a long way.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:42 PM
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I still don't like the idea of the Sox signing Tanaka to a big contract. Not because he's not good, but he's unproven. With that said, if he pans out, two stud pitchers can take you a long way.
Ditto.
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:09 PM
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Does anyone have a sense of what kind of impact signing Tanaka would have in terms of marketing opportunities in Japan?
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:12 PM
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The Sox may have money, but still too many holes. We have more work to do this offseason, then another offseason like this one, and we could be set. But we aren't right now and a FA pitcher won't change that.
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Reading between the lines, I get the idea that Rick is saying the Sox will make a serious offer for Tanaka but he expects to be outbid by a bigger fish like the Dodgers, Red Sox, or Yankees, but fans shouldn't worry that the team is going to be going cheap forever.
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:37 PM
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Does anyone have a sense of what kind of impact signing Tanaka would have in terms of marketing opportunities in Japan?
I just saw an article on boston.com that said Nomo, Ichiro, and Matsui all generated plenty of extra profit for their teams, but Matsuzaka was a flop. I guess it depends on how he performs.
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Trying to sell Soxfest tickets, obviously.
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:59 PM
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...keep that money in your pocket coming off a 99-loss season and see how things unfold over the first half of a season where little is expected before dropping 9 figures on anyone.
Except there's not going to be a Tanaka available every off-season...it's not often a 26 year old ace is available on the FA market.
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Except there's not going to be a Tanaka available every off-season...it's not often a 26 year old ace is available on the FA market.
Great, and even good consistent pitching is so hard to come by. Look at all the money the Twins gave to 3 mediocre pitchers this offseason -- and this still seem to want to add more. Look at what the Royals gave up for 2 years of James Shields. If we don't have another ace to complement Sale, the Tigers are going to give us a beat down for the next 3 years at least. The Royals are primed for a good run, IMO, and the Twins and Indians certainly aren't acting complacent.

I'm really not so sure the Cubs have more money to throw at Tanaka, technically. It's more that the Sox are not quite the big market team the Cubs are, and to sign Tanaka at the 100-140 mil mark would be unprecedented for a franchise like ours. Not so much the Cubs. They're well used to this as evidenced by Fukudome, Soriano, etc. Add together the cross-town competition and interdivisional competition, this move starts to seem like a do or die decision. At least if we plan to win anything in the next five years. Am I overreacting?
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:51 PM
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If there's one move a team can make to turn it around, its obviously to sign an ace pitcher. Considering signing him should have zero impact on the Sox ability to keep Sale around, I'd rather the Sox spend the money on a Tanaka than trying to plug holes with over priced mediocrity that might not do any better than a Marcus Semien, for example, might do. So far, Hahn seems to be trying plug holes by acquiring young players rather than mediocre free agents anyway.
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