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Old 01-16-2014, 05:42 PM
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The rotation looked a lot stronger with Santiago in it. Not looking to start a debate on the merits of Santiago, but it'd be nice if the Sox bolstered the rotation. I have a feeling its going to be like Rowand again...a criticized "average" player who none the less proved difficult to replace to the clear detriment of the team. Seems like the Sox have given up too much pitching since the trade deadline without replacing it to me.
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The rotation looked a lot stronger with Santiago in it. Not looking to start a debate on the merits of Santiago, but it'd be nice if the Sox bolstered the rotation. I have a feeling its going to be like Rowand again...a criticized "average" player who none the less proved difficult to replace to the clear detriment of the team. Seems like the Sox have given up too much pitching since the trade deadline without replacing it to me.
Between Johnson, Beck, Reinzo, Bassit, Surkamp, and Snodgress the Sox have plenty of plenty of arms who could realistically replace Santiago's production, some as soon as this year.

Rowand was an "average" player, but he played at an All-Star level for a few years in his post-Sox career. I doubt Santiago will reach such heights. I have a feeling he will be more along the lines of a Clayton Richard, a player the Sox traded so some people will naturally cling to him and only pay attention to his successful outings.
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Old 01-16-2014, 11:27 PM
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Gee, I can't wait for the Baseball Prospectus one! I predict BP will outdo itself and manage to predict that the Sox will finish 31st in the majors with 168 losses.
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Old 01-17-2014, 05:30 AM
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I agree with the article. My real hope is, this team gives a **** unlike last years squad. I like and welcome the infusion of young players, knowing it's going to be hard to watch some nights. Looking forward to this season and seeing the young kids grow.
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I would be shocked if Avisail Garcia only hit 15 doubles this year.
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:11 PM
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Between Johnson, Beck, Reinzo, Bassit, Surkamp, and Snodgress the Sox have plenty of plenty of arms who could realistically replace Santiago's production, some as soon as this year.
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That's what people said when Rowand was traded. Plus Johnson was already meant to take Peavy's spot...
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:14 PM
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Between Johnson, Beck, Reinzo, Bassit, Surkamp, and Snodgress the Sox have plenty of plenty of arms who could realistically replace Santiago's production, some as soon as this year.

Rowand was an "average" player, but he played at an All-Star level for a few years in his post-Sox career. I doubt Santiago will reach such heights. I have a feeling he will be more along the lines of a Clayton Richard, a player the Sox traded so some people will naturally cling to him and only pay attention to his successful outings.
I agree replacing Santiago will be easy because we're full of those 5-6 types and someone likely will have a decent season or two. But we shouldn't look to replace him. We should look to acquire players with more upside. Santiago and probably every name you mentioned...those guys are stopgaps.
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That's what people said when Rowand was traded. Plus Johnson was already meant to take Peavy's spot...
So because Brian Anderson didn't pan out, the Sox should never put their faith in a prospect ever again?
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So because Brian Anderson didn't pan out, the Sox should never put their faith in a prospect ever again?
No, but to just expect any old Surkamp or Snodgrass to come in and produce at Santiago's level is ludicrous. Guys who can come in and post a 3.30 ERA over their first 27 starts don't just grow on trees. We already had one spot lined up for Johnson to begin with, we'd be lucky for one of them to come even close let alone two.

And it wasn't just Anderson, the Sox didn't have a decent CFer until DeAza in 2012.
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I agree replacing Santiago will be easy because we're full of those 5-6 types
Please...this exactly what I'm talking about. If just anyone could do it, we wouldn't see so many pitchers fail.
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I agree replacing Santiago will be easy because we're full of those 5-6 types and someone likely will have a decent season or two. But we shouldn't look to replace him. We should look to acquire players with more upside. Santiago and probably every name you mentioned...those guys are stopgaps.
Johnson and Beck are both much more talented than Santiago, come on. Santiago arguably shouldn't be a starter, both Beck and Johnson are solid mid-rotation prospects.
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