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Old 01-12-2014, 10:32 AM
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60 minutes will have a segment on tonight about ARod with Anthony Bosch and MLB COO Rob Manfred.

ARod is also 6 HR's away from a $6 million bonus. He's at 654 and needs 660 to get the bonus.
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:05 PM
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Yeah, I misread it. Someone explained what you meant a few posts down, my apologies.
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:53 PM
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So I get to be the first one to comment about the 60 Minutes segment?

Some wise person, perhaps another lawyer, pointed out that when dealing with sordid areas and topics, you don't always get to pick your witnesses, because they came from the same cesspool. I think Anthony Bosch fits that category. But, MLB seems to have a boatload of evidence - phone and text records, financial records, and the Biogenesis records - that certainly make it look like A-Rod is in deep ****. MLB's acquisition of those records sure don't make them look all that great , either.

A-Rod has testified repeatedly in the court of public opinion that he's clean, but I am waiting to hear him speak under oath.

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Old 01-13-2014, 05:57 AM
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Everyone's waiting for ARod to speak under "oath". He would have had that opportunity during the arbitration. But it seems he declined. Ironic that he did not testify on his own behalf but was upset he couldn't require Bud Lite to take the stand.
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:43 AM
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This is all about the Yankees saving some money. If he was making league minimum it wouldn't have been pursued.

He'll show up for spring training in 2015. Yankees will have to play him or cut him. Either way, they'll pay him. Which is true justice, considering they had the opportunity to walk away when he opted out of his deal. Instead, they gave him a raise when they were bidding against themselves. Serves them right.

The New York Times published some details about the investigation back in November. This whole mess was definitely about more than "justice".
It would be interesting if they actually made the Yankees count a buy-out against their salary cap. If they're planning to buy him out anyway, this allows them to up their offer for Tanaka.
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Old 01-13-2014, 09:23 AM
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Recap of the interview that Bosch gave to 60 Minutes last night. He's the guy who supplied ARod and supposedly supplied Manny Ramirez too.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rial&hpt=hp_t2
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Recap of the interview that Bosch gave to 60 Minutes last night. He's the guy who supplied ARod and supposedly supplied Manny Ramirez too.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rial&hpt=hp_t2
I like this recap better:

http://deadspin.com/60-minutes-prese...mlb-1500126093
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Recap of the interview that Bosch gave to 60 Minutes last night. He's the guy who supplied ARod and supposedly supplied Manny Ramirez too.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rial&hpt=hp_t2
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It's hard to take anything 60 Minutes does seriously anymore.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:40 AM
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Definitely more complete and detailed. It also raises some valid questions about the interview itself. I was pretty surprised to find out it was on so soon after the decision was made actually. It does seem odd that MLB is out there publicly revealing all this "evidence".
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:44 AM
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I found it rather depressing, but then again the whole tawdry affair is. No good guys to be found or so it seems. I do object to making ARod some kind of victim.
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Great piece from Posnanski on this whole mess:

http://joeposnanski.com/joeblogs/the-60-minutes-report/
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Definitely more complete and detailed. It also raises some valid questions about the interview itself. I was pretty surprised to find out it was on so soon after the decision was made actually. It does seem odd that MLB is out there publicly revealing all this "evidence".
MLB should have released a statement to 60 Minutes and then shut its mouth, that was a bad idea.

I haven't liked Deadspin's coverage of this in the past because they made some basic assumptions that could have easily been refuted by looking over the CBA and the JDA (ya know, reporting).

However, I think they hit the nail on the head with this piece. MLB wanted to trumpet its success to the world and bolster Selig's stance against PED use while glancing over the fact that Selig (and others) ignored the scandal while it was raging. The piece might have hurt MLB more than it helped when it comes to the next CBA, especially if Rob Manford is the commissioner.
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I haven't liked Deadspin's coverage of this in the past because they made some basic assumptions that could have easily been refuted by looking over the CBA and the JDA (ya know, reporting).
Such as...
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Such as...
They claimed that Selig had no right to suspend A-Rod (or Braun) for 211 games since it was against the CBA and JDA. Well, the JDA has language in it (specifically section 7-G) says that a player may be subject to discipline that is not mentioned in the preceding sections (which covers positive tests, recreational drug use, selling banned substances, etc.). The punishments for any this kind of discipline is not covered in the usual 50, 100 game suspensions and is subject to the Commissioner's discretion under the CBA.

http://mlb.mlb.com/pa/pdf/jda.pdf

http://mlb.mlb.com/pa/pdf/cba_english.pdf
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Definitely more complete and detailed. It also raises some valid questions about the interview itself. I was pretty surprised to find out it was on so soon after the decision was made actually. It does seem odd that MLB is out there publicly revealing all this "evidence".
I think it was a bad move by MLB to agree to the interview. They are basically doing a victory lap when it really wasn't needed. No one side is clean in all of this IMO.
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