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Old 01-09-2014, 09:12 PM
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If the bidding is anywhere near the nine figures estimated, I can't see us being players, and I'm just fine with that scenario.
Reinsdorf and company did just save $20 million by the Bulls giving Deng away.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:29 PM
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Kenny was quoted this morning explaining why he was not around yesterday for Frank's HOF announcement. He said he was out of town on important team business which will result in very good news for the fans in a couple of days.
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Kenny was quoted this morning explaining why he was not around yesterday for Frank's HOF announcement. He said he was out of town on important team business which will result in very good news for the fans in a couple of days.

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Old 01-09-2014, 10:27 PM
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We don't ever get involved in these things (at least prior to this year). For it to be public, we're probably going to make a serious offer.

Given the money we threw at Abreu, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Sox throw a ton of money at the guy. Dude's a 25 year old ace type. Those guys don't hit the market ever.

We're signing him. I'm calling it.
Just because we make a "serious offer" doesn't mean we will sign him. I'm sure a lot of teams will make serious offers. Still, this is the rare Munch prediction that I am hoping comes true!
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:37 PM
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All I wanted out of this was for the Sox to make a serious and competitive offer. I just didnt want to hear that Tanaka is out of their price range or they have others down the pike.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:13 PM
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Williams was quoted in the Sun-Times as saying he was out of town "on White Sox business" when he wasn't at the Hurt's press conference. I almost spit my drink out.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:38 AM
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Williams was quoted in the Sun-Times as saying he was out of town "on White Sox business" when he wasn't at the Hurt's press conference. I almost spit my drink out.
Maybe it's that big Eric Patterson signing.
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:21 AM
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All I wanted out of this was for the Sox to make a serious and competitive offer. I just didnt want to hear that Tanaka is out of their price range or they have others down the pike.
The price looks like it could be outrageous, though.
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:48 AM
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Why would they bring KW there?

I guess if it is a situation where you need to pay more than anyone else would, Kenny would be the appropriate bidder.
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:59 AM
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Why would they bring KW there?

I guess if it is a situation where you need to pay more than anyone else would, Kenny would be the appropriate bidder.
Players like Freddy Garcia, Jose Contreras, Alexei Ramirez, Bobby Jenks, AJ Pierzynski, and Carlos Quentin, and teams like the NYY, NYM, LAD, LAAAAAA, and Boston are wondering why you are saying that.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:58 AM
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The price looks like it could be outrageous, though.
What's outrageous about it? Dude's a 25 year old pitcher that most scouts agree will be an immediate ace if not have a floor of a 2. In most cases, that's 150 million territory if the guy was older. Paying in that neighborhood when he's younger is actually a bargain. If it's outrageous, it's outrageous how cheap some of the dollar amounts sound.
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:01 AM
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Kenny is kind of sticking his neck out there when he says that his trip will result in good news for Sox fans. It doesn't sound like he hedged it with a "might" or "maybe", but was pretty definitive. It's possible that the good news that he is referring to has nothing to do with Tanaka, but if nothing at all happens in the next week or two, he is going to get shredded.
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:05 AM
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What's outrageous about it? Dude's a 25 year old pitcher that most scouts agree will be an immediate ace if not have a floor of a 2. In most cases, that's 150 million territory if the guy was older. Paying in that neighborhood when he's younger is actually a bargain. If it's outrageous, it's outrageous how cheap some of the dollar amounts sound.
It's a lot of money because scouts have been wrong before and he's never thrown a pitch against anything close to MLB level competition. While on the surface his numbers are impressive until he performs on a MLB mound and succeeds (at levels like Sale or Verlander) nothing is for sure.

It's also a huge change to his life. Everything he knows or has known is going to be a long ways away. Some people adapt poorly to those kind of changes. Tanaka won't just be pitching against higher level competition than he's ever faced he'll be doing it all while adapting to an entirely new culture and while under intense scrutiny and hype.

Time will tell how it all pans out, but it's certainly not inconceivable he could fall flat on his face or max out as a 3-4 and not be worth anywhere close to the money numbers that are being thrown around.
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:08 AM
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It's a lot of money because scouts have been wrong before and he's never thrown a pitch against anything close to MLB level competition. While on the surface his numbers are impressive until he performs on a MLB mound and succeeds (at levels like Sale or Verlander) nothing is for sure.

It's also a huge change to his life. Everything he knows or has known is going to be a long ways away. Some people adapt poorly to those kind of changes. Tanaka won't just be pitching against higher level competition than he's ever faced he'll be doing it all while adapting to an entirely new culture and while under intense scrutiny and hype.

Time will tell how it all pans out, but it's certainly not inconceivable he could fall flat on his face or max out as a 3-4 and not be worth anywhere close to the money numbers that are being thrown around.

If he signs with the Sox, I will bring him to Mitsuwa once a week for a delicious bowl of ramen or a GabuttoBurger.
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:14 AM
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It's a lot of money because scouts have been wrong before and he's never thrown a pitch against anything close to MLB level competition. While on the surface his numbers are impressive until he performs on a MLB mound and succeeds (at levels like Sale or Verlander) nothing is for sure.

It's also a huge change to his life. Everything he knows or has known is going to be a long ways away. Some people adapt poorly to those kind of changes. Tanaka won't just be pitching against higher level competition than he's ever faced he'll be doing it all while adapting to an entirely new culture and while under intense scrutiny and hype.

Time will tell how it all pans out, but it's certainly not inconceivable he could fall flat on his face or max out as a 3-4 and not be worth anywhere close to the money numbers that are being thrown around.
Forget numbers, the scouting is based on stuff. Pure stuff wise, he's easily worth more. Even if he ends up being 3-4, he'll always have stuff that projects better and thus will always have value (especially on the trade market). Add in the immense revenue someone like him brings in, it seems a no-brainer that not only will someone offer tons of money, but that he'll easily be worth it. I wouldn't hesitate to give him $200 millions over 10 years. It's a risk because of injury (like anyone), but even on the low end it's a better deal than most.
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