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Old 12-02-2013, 09:27 PM
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@DanHayesCSN Rick Hahn said #WhiteSox hesitant to write off Tyler Flowers and Josh Phegley. Believe both can reach upside.


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Old 12-02-2013, 10:32 PM
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@DanHayesCSN Rick Hahn said #WhiteSox hesitant to write off Tyler Flowers and Josh Phegley. Believe both can reach upside.


If the team isn't interested in 2014, neither am I.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:38 PM
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@DanHayesCSN Rick Hahn said #WhiteSox hesitant to write off Tyler Flowers and Josh Phegley. Believe both can reach upside.


Well, it's not like he was going to come out and say "Hey, they both suck but this about as good as we can do."
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:38 PM
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I'm going to spend the rest of the winter trying to figure out what Tyler Flowers did last season to warrant doubling his salary.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:32 AM
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@DanHayesCSN Rick Hahn said #WhiteSox hesitant to write off Tyler Flowers and Josh Phegley. Believe both can reach upside.


If Tyler Flowers is the starting catcher again in 2014 because "he still has upside" and just hasn't hit his stride yet (while coming back from shoulder surgery, too), I refuse to be held responsible for my actions.

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Old 12-03-2013, 12:46 AM
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I'm going to spend the rest of the winter trying to figure out what Tyler Flowers did last season to warrant doubling his salary.
It was tough reading the release when they started by mentioning his batting average of .195.
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:30 AM
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Let's not read too much into this.

Both Phegley and Flowers could easily be in AAA in April, and if the Mets wanted Flowers, then maybe the Sox can work out a trade.
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:46 AM
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I am really hoping that Hahn has a trade involving catching in the works, but if not...so be it.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:08 AM
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Let's not read too much into this.

Both Phegley and Flowers could easily be in AAA in April, and if the Mets wanted Flowers, then maybe the Sox can work out a trade.
Yeah, I'm still holding out hope the Sox bring in some kind of veteran catcher, Flowers I can live with in a back-up/platoon role and Phegley in AAA ready to come up in case of injury.

If they're our 1-2 catcher tandem, though, come Opening Day, I am going to be seriously depressed
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:34 PM
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If they're our 1-2 catcher tandem, though, come Opening Day, I am going to be seriously depressed
I agree. Maybe the Sox are trying to deal for a catcher.

How would a deal of Addison Reed and Hector Santiago for Jonathan Lucroy sound? Or how about this: Reed, Santiago and DeAza to Milwaukee for Lucroy and Aoki?
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:42 PM
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I agree. Maybe the Sox are trying to deal for a catcher.

How would a deal of Addison Reed and Hector Santiago for Jonathan Lucroy sound? Or how about this: Reed, Santiago and DeAza to Milwaukee for Lucroy and Aoki?
Why would Milwaukee have interest in either of these trades? Jim Henderson showed he was good enough as a closer, at least as good as Reed, and maybe better. DeAza for them is basically Aoki - they have a glut of outfielders and do not need another. Also, they may shift Aoki to first because they have a gaping hole there. Most significantly, Lucroy is under an extremely affordable contract through 2017, and has turned into perhaps a top-5 catcher in baseball. They also don't really have a need for Santiago, already having Lohse, Peralta, Gallardo, and Estrada, with several young players to compete for a 5th starter spot.

The trade proposals on WSI often seem to not really analyze the trade from the perspective of the other team. These would be disaster trades for Milwaukee.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:37 PM
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They have confidence in Flowers, but we do not. Prove us wrong please.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:42 PM
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Why would Milwaukee have interest in either of these trades? Jim Henderson showed he was good enough as a closer, at least as good as Reed, and maybe better. DeAza for them is basically Aoki - they have a glut of outfielders and do not need another. Also, they may shift Aoki to first because they have a gaping hole there. Most significantly, Lucroy is under an extremely affordable contract through 2017, and has turned into perhaps a top-5 catcher in baseball. They also don't really have a need for Santiago, already having Lohse, Peralta, Gallardo, and Estrada, with several young players to compete for a 5th starter spot.

The trade proposals on WSI often seem to not really analyze the trade from the perspective of the other team. These would be disaster trades for Milwaukee.
Disaster? Really?

Let me start by saying that I would not deal Lucroy if I were the Brewers. But there have been some trade rumors about Lucroy, as this Brewers fan site discussed last July:

http://reviewingthebrew.com/2013/07/...as-trade-bait/

And as for Reed and Santiago, you undervalue both of them. Reed is a huge upgrade on journeyman Jim Henderson. And you don't think that the Brewers could use a lefty starter with some upside? That Brewers rotation is pretty weak. Gallardo is top notch, Loshe is serviceable but 35. And the other two starters, Peralta and Estrada, are OK, I supposes. You say that DeAza and Aoki are a wash, so take them out. That leaves a proposed deal of a top closer and a promising lefty starter for a good hitting catcher.

That is not unreasonable and hardly a disaster.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:53 PM
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Or Jose Lobaton could be heading to the White Sox.

http://www.fantasysp.com/player/mlb/...d-to-white-sox
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:10 PM
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Or Jose Lobaton could be heading to the White Sox.

http://www.fantasysp.com/player/mlb/...d-to-white-sox
That was earlier, but doesn't sound like it now.

https://twitter.com/TBTimes_Rays/sta...89633469800448
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