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Old 10-14-2013, 10:50 AM
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Default 10th Anniversary of "Bartman" Game

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...rts&id=9286174

10 years ago today, the Cubs were 5 outs away from the NL pennant and then the roof caved in and they gave up 8 runs to the Marlins in the 8th inning. Classic Cubs. .....also classic Cub-dom to find a scapegoat (Bartman) and not blame it on the players who gave up those 8 runs.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00310140.shtml

As much as that meltdown of a game was highly entertaining to me, I really feel sorry for Steve Bartman and I hope he's leading a peaceful life.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:07 AM
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Even better than the grounder going through Leon Durham's legs vs. San Diego in '84.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:18 AM
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Even better than the grounder going through Leon Durham's legs vs. San Diego in '84.
Just to side track about this for a second, I was reading an article about the '84 LCS, and noticed that San Diego had home field in the series even though the Cubs had the better record. Anyone know why this was?
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:55 AM
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Just to side track about this for a second, I was reading an article about the '84 LCS, and noticed that San Diego had home field in the series even though the Cubs had the better record. Anyone know why this was?
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:07 PM
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Can't believe it's been 10 years already. Seems like only yesterday I was reveling in the misery of all of Cubdom.
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:26 PM
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CSN Chicago will have a documentary on that team tomorrow night:

http://www.csnchicago.com/show/5-outs

ESPN's Catching Hell was pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6NsWdRfgAk
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:28 PM
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Just to side track about this for a second, I was reading an article about the '84 LCS, and noticed that San Diego had home field in the series even though the Cubs had the better record. Anyone know why this was?
I think they just alternated East-West back then.
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:37 PM
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Just to side track about this for a second, I was reading an article about the '84 LCS, and noticed that San Diego had home field in the series even though the Cubs had the better record. Anyone know why this was?
Back in the day, the LCS simply alternated with who had home field advantage every year between divisions (the same way that it alternated between leagues for the World Series.) In 84 the NL West had the homefield advantage.

Here is what I can't figure out, though- how come in 1985 the NL West had the homefield advantage?

1982- Cardinals vs. Braves, homefield Braves (NL West)
1983- Dodgers vs. Phillies, homefield Phillies (NL East)
1984- Cubs vs. Padres, homefield Padres (NL West)
1985- Cardinals vs. Dodgers, homefield Dodgers (NL West)
1986- Mets vs. Astros, homefield Astros (NL West)
1987- Giants vs. Cardinals, homefield Cardinals (NL East)

Does anyone have any idea why 1985 was flipped and the NL East did not get home field advantage that year?
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:50 PM
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Back in the day, the LCS simply alternated with who had home field advantage every year between divisions (the same way that it alternated between leagues for the World Series.) In 84 the NL West had the homefield advantage.

Here is what I can't figure out, though- how come in 1985 the NL West had the homefield advantage?

1982- Cardinals vs. Braves, homefield Braves (NL West)
1983- Dodgers vs. Phillies, homefield Phillies (NL East)
1984- Cubs vs. Padres, homefield Padres (NL West)
1985- Cardinals vs. Dodgers, homefield Dodgers (NL West)
1986- Mets vs. Astros, homefield Astros (NL West)
1987- Giants vs. Cardinals, homefield Cardinals (NL East)

Does anyone have any idea why 1985 was flipped and the NL East did not get home field advantage that year?
Interesting that the same pattern happened in the American League. 1985 was the first year of the best-of-7 format, not sure if that had anything to do with it.

1982- Angels vs. Brewers, homefield Brewers (AL East)
1983- Orioles vs. White Sox, homefield White Sox (AL West)
1984- Royals vs. Tigers, homefield Tigers (AL East)
1985- Royals vs. Blue Jays, homefield Blue Jays (AL East)
1986- Angels vs. Red Sox, homefield Red Sox (AL East)
1987- Tigers vs. Twins, homefield Twins (AL West)
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:51 PM
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CSN Chicago will have a documentary on that team tomorrow night:

http://www.csnchicago.com/show/5-outs

ESPN's Catching Hell was pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6NsWdRfgAk
Lame. What's the point of another documentary? Unless Bartman is actually breaking his silence, there isn't much new ground that can be covered.
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Can't believe it's been 10 years already. Seems like only yesterday I was reveling in the misery of all of Cubdom.
Greatest pre-2005 game ever.
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Greatest pre-2005 game ever.
Nope.

This was.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:12 PM
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I remember watching the game with my wife (a nominal Cub fan, at least then). When Gonzalez booted the double play grounder, I said to her, "Here we go. A collapse for the ages"

It never occurred to me to blame Bartman. It was strictly on the players.

Game 7 was even better tho. Watching Woody blow it.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:12 PM
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Lame. What's the point of another documentary? Unless Bartman is actually breaking his silence, there isn't much new ground that can be covered.
Other than the Cubbie Loving tool media members crying again on TV, not much.

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I was a senior at ISU at the time. I was only one of three people who walked out of Elroy's in downtown Bloomington happy that night.
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