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Old 08-15-2013, 12:09 PM
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Default Big Changes Coming to MLB's Use of Instant Replay

I guess the most important thing is to "get it right," but this is (IMO) pretty extreme.

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Old 08-15-2013, 12:30 PM
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I guess the most important thing is to "get it right," but this is (IMO) pretty extreme.
Not at all. There is such a thing as objective reality. No reason to have fallible human perception in a split-second deciding game outcomes when the technology is there to get it right.

Once Bud and his regime of Luddites is out of the picture and the electronic strike zone is established, I'll be a happy camper.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:57 PM
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3 is too many chances. It should be 1 and if you get it correct you keep it. Make it part of the strategy of the game.

Too many instant replays can ruin the flow of game. College football's instant replay is a total mess. The refs refuse to make a call and replay way to many calls.
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:57 PM
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I'm a huge supporter of IR in baseball but this is so ridiculous. Why add all this unnecessary drama and time? Add a 5th umpire to the crew, let him sit in the pressbox with an HDTV and access to the video feeds for the game. In probably 99% of all cases, that guy could probably tell if the call on the field was right or not within a matter of seconds.

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Old 08-15-2013, 03:59 PM
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3 is too many chances. It should be 1 and if you get it correct you keep it. Make it part of the strategy of the game.

Too many instant replays can ruin the flow of game. College football's instant replay is a total mess. The refs refuse to make a call and replay way to many calls.
Make it part of the strategy? How about we just get all the calls right? There should be no strategy regarding blown calls.
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:59 PM
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I'm a huge supporter of IR in baseball but this is so ridiculous. Why add all this unnecessary drama and time? Add a 5th umpire to the crew, let him sit in the pressbox with an HDTV and access to the video feeds for the game. In probably 99% of all cases, that guy could probably tell if the call on the field was right or not within a matter of seconds.

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Old 08-15-2013, 04:03 PM
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Make it part of the strategy? How about we just get all the calls right? There should be no strategy regarding blown calls.
Seriously, trying to solve the problem of the human element with ADDING MORE HUMAN ELEMENT is like trying to put out a grease fire with a blow torch.
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:53 PM
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I enjoyed Ian Desmond's quip about it. Something along the lines of if the brakes of the car are bad you don't get better airbags for the car. You fix the brakes.
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:10 PM
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All kinds of scenarios are going to come into play and most of them bad.
This should have been done a very little at a time. Just heard former umpire Jim McKean on the Rays game and at first he said it was good but as the interview continued he brought up all different kinds of stuff that could happen especially when there are runners on base. Also said that gamesmenship could come into play.
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Any system that requires challenges is not a fair system. It really isn't instant replay. It is just something to shut up fans demanding instant replay.
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Any system that requires challenges is not a fair system. It really isn't instant replay. It is just something to shut up fans demanding instant replay.
Well said.
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Old 08-16-2013, 04:53 AM
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Baseball is live, unrehearsed entertainment. The umps are part of the game. The technology of IR has nothing to do with the game itself. Leave the damn game alone, and let it proceed with all of it's human characteristics, including mistakes by all parties involved in the game.
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Baseball is live, unrehearsed entertainment. The umps are part of the game. The technology of IR has nothing to do with the game itself. Leave the damn game alone, and let it proceed with all of it's human characteristics, including mistakes by all parties involved in the game.
This opinion is so absolutely ridiculous. Why would you want mistakes?
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:58 AM
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My question:

Let's say Alexei Ramirez hits a scorching drive down the third base line. The umpire immediately signals foul ball. Alexei trots back to the dugout. The play gets challenged, and it becomes apparent that the ball should have been called fair and the call is reversed. What happens? Does Ramirez get first base? Second base? Does he have to run out of the dugout to first before the pitcher can get the ball to the first baseman? If he never touches first, can the manager of the opposing team challenge so they can try to get him out at first?

There are so many instances where the play stops because of a call and you have no idea what would have happened after the play with the opposite call.

De Aza is on 2nd. Viciedo hits a drive to center. The centerfielder traps the ball, but it is ruled a catch. It's not deep enough for De Aza to tag to 3rd, but he is leading off far enough that he could easily make third if there is no catch. The play is challenged and overturned. Does De Aza get to go to 3rd?
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Any system that requires challenges is not a fair system. It really isn't instant replay. It is just something to shut up fans demanding instant replay.
Any advancement of IR in the sport is a move in the positive direction, but I agree that this is woefully short-ended. It essentially keeps the onus of checking on umpires in the hands of team's personnel instead of (as it should be) on MLB and the umps.

It's a shame, too, as MLB could have really moved to the forefront of embracing modern technology and instead, seems content to play second fiddle to the NFL, which is ironic in that the NFL is moving away from it's original IR policy now that the league mandates all scoring and turnover plays be reviewed automatically.

Perhaps one day down the line, we'll look at this step as a positive move in MLB's eventual usage of full IR capabilities, but today, it looks like a stinker than no one likes; traditionalists hate how much this will encroach on the game and modernists shake their head at how backward it is. Somehow MLB continues to plot a course for the future and take no steps forward.
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