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Old 08-12-2013, 08:26 PM
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The Sox should stand pat and do nothing.
Ya. They should dump as much money as possible on someone who could be a monumental failure.

Wait. They did that with Adam Dunn. And that's exactly why they are where they are.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:44 PM
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The best player in the world not in the Majors and a potential MVP Candidate who is still in his prime. He's going to get a lot of money.
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Ya. They should dump as much money as possible on someone who could be a monumental failure.

Wait. They did that with Adam Dunn. And that's exactly why they are where they are.
I realize he may get a ton of money but the only international players I can remember that didn't earn the money they got would be Fukudome, Irabu and Kazuo Matsui. Everyone else has pretty much earned what they got. Granted there are still a couple kids in the Cubs organization who the jury is still out on.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:47 PM
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Ya. They should dump as much money as possible on someone who could be a monumental failure.

Wait. They did that with Adam Dunn. And that's exactly why they are where they are.
That's right. So they should take no risks and sit on the money.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:12 PM
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This guy should thank Yasiel Puig for the overvaluation.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:20 PM
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That's right. So they should take no risks and sit on the money.
If it means not out bidding the Yankees and Red Sox and Rangers and Dodgers and the ridiculous amounts of money they'll dump on an entirely unproven commodity then ya.

How about they use the amount of money this kid is going to sign for to sign 4 or 5 players who've actually proven they can play in the majors?
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:38 PM
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That's right. So they should take no risks and sit on the money.
Why even play baseball? Release all the players and spend the cash on a kick ass fireworks show 81 times per night.
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:09 PM
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If it means not out bidding the Yankees and Red Sox and Rangers and Dodgers and the ridiculous amounts of money they'll dump on an entirely unproven commodity then ya.

How about they use the amount of money this kid is going to sign for to sign 4 or 5 players who've actually proven they can play in the majors?
So the Sox should never sign any unproven commodities? No international players... ever? You would have hated to see Puig or Cespedes or Ichiro or Darvish on the White Sox?
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:26 PM
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For everyone of those guys you get a Viciedo or Irabu or Shingo or someone else that doesn't pan out. You can't keep dumping money on single players at what will likely be a ridiculous salary when you need at least 5 position players. You think Dunn has handcuffed the Sox? What do you think a guy who may not even hit a major league home run would do if he was making even more money?
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:28 PM
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For everyone of those guys you get a Viciedo or Irabu or Shingo or someone else that doesn't pan out. You can't keep dumping money on single players at what will likely be a ridiculous salary when you need at least 5 position players. You think Dunn has handcuffed the Sox? What do you think a guy who may not even hit a major league home run would do if he was making even more money?
Well, that's what scouting players is for. Abreu ain't Viciedo, and he isn't Puig, either. The point is that he might be talented enough to be worth all that money. How other international players have panned out, or not, has no bearing on him.
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Wow, tough crowd. Don't come here with your own opinion apparently. One reason why I don't post often on this website.
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For everyone of those guys you get a Viciedo or Irabu or Shingo or someone else that doesn't pan out. You can't keep dumping money on single players at what will likely be a ridiculous salary when you need at least 5 position players. You think Dunn has handcuffed the Sox? What do you think a guy who may not even hit a major league home run would do if he was making even more money?
Is there anyone who thinks Dunn has handcuffed the Sox?
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:52 AM
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I vote for taking a serious run at him. I think he'll get Puig type contract, and as much as he could be a bust, we need Impact talent, we have lots of filler types at the minor league level. You have to start somewhere. I originally laughed at the contracts of Cespedes and Puig, but now they seem very reasonable and almost under market for players of their caliber. I would hope that an actual MLB scouting department would be able to determine if it is likely he will turn into a good player. If the answer is yes, make a strong offer. If Oakland can do it, there is no reason the Sox shouldnt be in the mix.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:57 AM
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Well, that's what scouting players is for. Abreu ain't Viciedo, and he isn't Puig, either. The point is that he might be talented enough to be worth all that money. How other international players have panned out, or not, has no bearing on him.
It's really hard to adequately scout Cuban players though. Viciedo looked like a stud with great bat speed in limited visibility, but two months into his minor league career most scouts soured on him because of his lack of any sort of batting eye.

I'm not saying don't spend on Cuban free agents, just that $60+ million is a ton to throw at someone you've only been able to evaluate a half dozen times. It makes more sense for pitchers than hitters. You can't tell much from 20 at bats.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:53 AM
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Well, that's what scouting players is for. Abreu ain't Viciedo, and he isn't Puig, either. The point is that he might be talented enough to be worth all that money. How other international players have panned out, or not, has no bearing on him.
He might be, he might not. I agree that other players success or failures shouldn't factor into him, but I'm not the one who brought up other players.

I just don't think it would be wise for the Sox to pay a guy top 10 in MLB type money when it's not sure he'll even be able to play. Let the deep pocketed take that chance.
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