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Old 07-28-2013, 07:42 PM
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Oh yeah, sure, but from the perspective of how this will affect the trade deadline, everyone should already know the names of the guys looking down the barrel of a suspension.
There might be a couple of names that are surprises. I don't think there will be any big names, but I suspect there could be a few guys named who haven't been named yet.
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:59 PM
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I'm going to die laughing if a White Sox player is on that list
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:55 PM
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I'm going to die laughing if a White Sox player is on that list
At least we'll know whether or not this Biogenesis stuff works (it would not)
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:32 PM
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At least we'll know whether or not this Biogenesis stuff works (it would not)
The funny part would be risking humiliation and a suspension for something that didn't work.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:26 AM
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That is according to the NY Post, which states A-Rod may be looking at a suspension that keeps him out of the game until 2015.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yanke...m2vt7mihs3UiKI

How does MLB have the authority to suspend him for almost 200 games? Officially, this is his first offense which the CBA states should be a 50 game ban.

Even if they try it, don't you think A-Rod would win an appeal?
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:28 AM
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How does MLB have the authority to suspend him for almost 200 games? Officially, this is his first offense which the CBA states should be a 50 game ban.

Even if they try it, don't you think A-Rod would win an appeal?
There are reports that A-Rod was buying records from the Biogenesis clinic with the intent to destroy them, so I could easily see how MLB could hand him a 50 game PED suspension and then tack the rest on for his attempted cover up.

http://deadspin.com/reports-it-was-a...iden-472713547

Most of the talk has MLB in contact with his lawyers so this is more than just a failed pee test. This is pretty harsh ****.
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Old 07-31-2013, 08:18 AM
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MLB has informed the MLBPA who will be suspended and for how long.

http://deadspin.com/mlb-tells-the-un...ium=socialflow

Those of you wondering how the MLB can level suspensions longer than 50 games, it is allowable under the "non-analytic positives" clause of the drug policy.

Full list of names has not been leaked, but it looks like everyone but A-Rod is willing to take the punishment.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:20 PM
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Bob Nightengale from USA Today is reporting that MLB is looking to ban A-Rod for life

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nesis/2606319/
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:30 PM
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Bob Nightengale from USA Today is reporting that MLB is looking to ban A-Rod for life

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nesis/2606319/
Such a sad end. The guy had a ton of promise at the start of his career. After he left Seattle, it seemed everything that could possibly go bad did so. A cautionary tale.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:34 PM
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Such a sad end. The guy had a ton of promise at the start of his career. After he left Seattle, it seemed everything that could possibly go bad did so. A cautionary tale.

Except for his near billion dollar earnings
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:41 PM
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Such a sad end. The guy had a ton of promise at the start of his career. After he left Seattle, it seemed everything that could possibly go bad did so. A cautionary tale.
At some point his ego destroyed him. He along with Griffey Jr are still the best young players I've ever seen.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:57 PM
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A-Rod is the biggest fraud I've ever seen in sports. His PR machine hid for years the fact that he's a vapid, self-centered, lying cheat of a human being. Karma.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:53 AM
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Bob Nightengale from USA Today is reporting that MLB is looking to ban A-Rod for life

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nesis/2606319/
It will not sit right if the Yankees get out of that contract because of this. It seems like there should be punishment for the team that harbors the juicer. The Yankees are getting rewarded (if the ban holds up). Maybe they should be required to give some or all of the intended salary to charity or something like that.

It also seems like it will set a bad precedent. What's to stop the Angels from doing the most thorough investigation possible to try to get out of the Pujols contract? Obviously if he's clean, it won't matter, but if he's dirty he shouldn't be investigated any more than the average player until there is some evidence.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:36 AM
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It will not sit right if the Yankees get out of that contract because of this. It seems like there should be punishment for the team that harbors the juicer. The Yankees are getting rewarded (if the ban holds up). Maybe they should be required to give some or all of the intended salary to charity or something like that.

It also seems like it will set a bad precedent. What's to stop the Angels from doing the most thorough investigation possible to try to get out of the Pujols contract? Obviously if he's clean, it won't matter, but if he's dirty he shouldn't be investigated any more than the average player until there is some evidence.
A-Rod's lifetime ban stems from more than just his alleged steroid use, MLB apparently has pretty damning information that he blatantly interfered with their investigation of Biogenesis to cover up the allegations.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:00 AM
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A-Rod's lifetime ban stems from more than just his alleged steroid use, MLB apparently has pretty damning information that he blatantly interfered with their investigation of Biogenesis to cover up the allegations.
Also that he was kind of a ringleader of the operation, and he recruited other players to go to Biogenesis.

Looks real messy either way, if they suspend him 150 games, the perception is they cut a deal and let him off easy. If they ban him for life, then this will become mired in the courts with A-Rod having a decent first-offense defense, and bring the game into further disrepute.

Wouldn't mind seeing Bud hang it up after this too.

And yes, it would really suck to see the Yankees luck out of that contract, but who knows, maybe A-Rod can sue to get a piece of that too.
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