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Old 05-09-2013, 03:13 PM
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In my money fantasy league I now am down in wins because of this.
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:16 PM
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:30 PM
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I disagree. Just like some ballplayers are much better than others, it is the same with umpires. It shouldn't be but it is. It's true an umpire with a good reputation, like a Jim Joyce, can make a major blunder. However others like CB Bucknor, Joe West, and yes Angel Hernandez have proven over time to leave a lot to be desired.
I'm on board with this line of thinking. Those three guys are awful representatives of baseball.
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:46 PM
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:06 PM
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I defy someone in Major League Baseball to grow a pair.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:10 PM
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I defy someone in Major League Baseball to grow a pair.
Says the man who has taken to twitter to try to start a movement for people to inexplicably call Skip Bayless Beavis.

Seriously, what do you want them to do? Have everyone go back and restart the game from that point onward?
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:30 PM
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Says the man who has taken to twitter to try to start a movement for people to inexplicably call Skip Bayless Beavis.

Seriously, what do you want them to do? Have everyone go back and restart the game from that point onward?
Yes.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:31 PM
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Says the man who has taken to twitter to try to start a movement for people to inexplicably call Skip Bayless Beavis.
What does this have to do with anything?

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Seriously, what do you want them to do? Have everyone go back and restart the game from that point onward?
That's exactly what I want them to do.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:37 PM
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I think thats what they need to do too.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:38 PM
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Has that ever happened in baseball? A call being reversed and the game being restarted at a later date?
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:48 PM
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Has that ever happened in baseball? A call being reversed and the game being restarted at a later date?
Pine Tar Incident 1983.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:29 PM
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I defy someone in Major League Baseball to grow a pair.
It isn't just baseball. There was a call at the end of an NFL game last year that stood even though everyone everywhere seemed to be talking for a week about how it was obvious that the call, which decided which team was going to win, apparently with a dead clock at the end, was wrong and the replay showed it.

The problem with replay is that the NFL didn't define it right, but the NFL seems to be able to do nothing wrong. The problem is the idea that you need a higher standard to overturn a call than to make a call in the first place. Replay isn't going to work if there is a presumption that the official got it right, as if he if innocent until proven guilty.

I have always been skeptical of instant replay in baseball because so often play continues after a call. I think you need the immediate call if you are on the field. Reversing that call can screw everything up that follows. I was watching cricket's Indian Premier League recently, and they treated the equivalent of a close safe-or-out call like a photo finish in horse racing. I was impressed with how well it worked, although the play ended with a dead ball. Even twenty20 cricket is slower paced than baseball, so the delay wasn't considered a problem.

I think baseball needs umpires making immediate calls. But I also think the only way instant replay can work is if there is someone or a crew watching the replays as they occur and reversing the calls if they are wrong. Every call. If it's just calls that are appealed or complained about, you don't have a fair instant replay system. And fair is what it should be.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:37 PM
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Pine Tar Incident 1983.
That, of course, involved the incorrect application of a rule by an umpire, or so it was determined. The game was protested. The protest was upheld. The baseball rules allow for protests of games for misapplications of rules. They do not allow for protests based on judgment calls. Rules allow for reconsideration by an umpiring crew of a judgment call, but not of a protest based on disagreement, even majority disagreement of the reconsidered judgment.

Where in any American sport has a game been replayed from the point of a judgment call that replay showed was incorrect?
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:58 PM
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The happiest man in baseball today is Angel Hernandez, he got to read his name in the paper!
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:09 PM
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The happiest man in baseball today is Angel Hernandez, he got to read his name in the paper!
Joe West is jealous.
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