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Glavine has a much better won loss and about the same ERA . What was it that made you think that? This is a discussion, just curious.
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I think he gets in as well. Other than burning himself because he ironed his shirt while wearing it, Smoltz has done a lot of good things on and off the field.
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The career stats are deff in Glavines favor but in the playoffs Glavine was pretty medicore while Smoltz has a argument as being the best post season pitcher of all time. I think Smoltz was 15-4 in the playoffs and Glavine was like 11-14. Smoltz had a higher era+ and he usually went up against other teams aces while Glavine faced other teams third or fourth starters. In a big game I'm taking Smoltz. I guess looking at it carerwise i'm taking Glavine.
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I'm still not understanding the comparison to Smoltz and Eckersley. Eckersley as a starter (13 seasons) had one 20 game win season and one additional of 15 or more. Smoltz had one 24 game win season five 15 or more (14 seasons). He was 58 games over .500
If you cherry pick Eck's best years as a closer 51 48 45 for 144 saves. Smoltz as a closer for the 3 consecutive years had 55 45 44 for 144 saves. Someone already stated that in 3 consecutive years only 2 other closers have done this. To call him a good closer is insane. He was THE best closer when he was closing. Smoltz made the All-Star team 8 times 1 CY Young as a starter Eckersley made the All-Star team 6 times 1 CY Young/MVP both as a reliever. I can't express how much it pisses me off that a RP wins a MVP let alone a CY Young.
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I think he will eventually make it, but it wouldn't surprise me if he waits a ballot or two. Over 90% is a overly optimistic in my opinion as only 6 other pitchers have ever made it with that level of support.
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Maybe you're right, but I think Smoltz is a lock for the 1st ballot. If the best you can do to argue against him is bring up numbers you've obviously not been paying attention to how backward thinking the BBWAA when it comes to stats.
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I think the numbers aren't as important as the fact that he was one of the faces of the most dominant rotation of the generation, and one of the greatest all-time.
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that won 1 stinkin world Series . They sucked, except for Smoltz, when it counted. Even ESPN made a show with a litany of excuses for the Braves. Blamed the relievers for it .They had Jeff Reardon, who was a pretty good pitcher , and ESPN blamed him. Wohlers was pretty good also. You got 3 starters like that and win 1 series, that's a damn shame.
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Maddux too.
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