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Old 11-21-2012, 05:14 PM
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Would have preferred Jordan Danks
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:16 PM
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Mike Trout wasn't available?!?! C'mon, Hahn, we're not gonna stand for this kinda stuff!
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:18 PM
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:46 PM
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:58 PM
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Would have preferred Jordan Danks
That's certainly your prerogative. The 4th outfielder is merely the whipping boy for the forums. It won't matter much who it is.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:25 PM
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Surprised at the negativity toward Wise. He's a lefty, can hit a bit with occasional power, can run and steal a base, and is pretty good defensively. Plus his attitude is good. He's a decent bench player, especially on a team without a ton of money to burn.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:24 PM
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Surprised at the negativity toward Wise. He's a lefty, can hit a bit with occasional power, can run and steal a base, and is pretty good defensively. Plus his attitude is good. He's a decent bench player, especially on a team without a ton of money to burn.
Right you are. The problem is that someone eats a bad clam and Wise winds up starting for weeks at a time and gets exposed as he regresses to his lifetime mean.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:33 PM
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Love D-Wise! Don't hate the player, hate the the game!!! Good bench guy that can also pitch in a blowout.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:42 PM
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Surprised at the negativity toward Wise. He's a lefty, can hit a bit with occasional power, can run and steal a base, and is pretty good defensively. Plus his attitude is good. He's a decent bench player, especially on a team without a ton of money to burn.
Don't know why you're surprised. This was to be expected. People around here need to realize that Ozzie isn't managing this team anymore, so Wise will not be the starting CFer and leadoff hitter. He's a 4th outfielder. Jeez.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:16 AM
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Don't know why you're surprised. This was to be expected. People around here need to realize that Ozzie isn't managing this team anymore, so Wise will not be the starting CFer and leadoff hitter. He's a 4th outfielder. Jeez.
And he's a bad 4th outfielder. .290 OBP in his best year, which was last year, is horrid.
And last year, he did lead off and he did start - many games.
Good in the clubhouse is a ridiculous reason to sign a player.
Last year, the lack of bench production on this team was a glaring weakness. So what do the Sox do? Bring back the same player. Now, sure, there are other bench players, but the chances of your utility infielder being an excellent bench bat are close to zero.
The 4th outfielder is where you get it from, the Sox didn't even make an effort to upgrade.
Disappointing.
Guillen's personality wore out its welcome, but much of his philosophy of low-obp baseball was and is shared by this organization.
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And he's a bad 4th outfielder. .290 OBP in his best year, which was last year, is horrid.
And last year, he did lead off and he did start - many games.
Good in the clubhouse is a ridiculous reason to sign a player.
Yes, he played as much as he did because his arrival coincided with De Aza's injury problems, it's not like the Sox were constantly sitting healthy players to jam more Wise in the lineup. I don't see how signing a guy to a $700 K deal precludes the Sox from making any more roster moves, what there's only like 90 days left until Spring Training starts, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ENOUGH TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wise also spent a good chunk of the year playing 4th OF for a 95-win team, so it's clearly not the keystone of a roster.
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:32 AM
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No thanks.

For the hype of his glove, the guy couldn't catch a cold out there.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:14 AM
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No thanks.

For the hype of his glove, the guy couldn't catch a cold out there.
Not making excuses for the guy, but he always seemed to be going out there to make an awesome play--such as diving for a ball when he should have taken it on a hop--which lead to him completely botching the play and...well, yeah.

I guess what I'm getting at is that if he just tries to not overdo it, we probably wouldn't be talking about his glove. *shrug*
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:01 AM
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Some people need a reality check as to the kind of player on a big league bench.

Unless one of the kids in the minors steps up, you're not going to be able to get a guy who has similar numbers as a guy in the lineup, unless you're willing to pay a lot more than 700K, and those guys want playing time assurances, like our ole buddy Fukudome.

Also, remember that Wise outperformed a number of our players down the stretch.

That said, I hope there's a mix of lower cost bench guys and kids fighting for big league jobs come March, and Wise won't just be handed the role.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:29 AM
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Wise may be a nice guy... I don't know. I can say though, that I can't ever remember a time I've been happy he's on the roster. ugh.
Not even after the 26th out of Buehrle's perfecto?
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