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Old 06-04-2012, 10:20 PM
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On the phone, said some buzz they wanted Smorel, but had some signability concerns at that spot for passed. White Sox still will not overpay slot.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:24 PM
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Harold Reynolds just said Courtney Hawkins was his favorite pick of the night. I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or worse.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:25 PM
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Sounds like an on-the-cheap pick for which the Sox are infamous.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:28 PM
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Smorel would have put the Sox at an A+ night 1 grade. They probably end up with a B now, Home Run in round 1, Strike out in Round 2.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:28 PM
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Sounds like an on-the-cheap pick for which the Sox are infamous.
More like this draft class sucks, so why not take some risky, high upside high schoolers? It's not a bad philosophy for this year's draft.

Tomorrow will be college pitchers from Rounds 2-10.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:28 PM
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I don't think they say much bad about any prospect. The kid has good power, it may develop, but the rest of his game is not great, especially at that slot, with what was there. It was a bad, very bad, reach.

But he should be an extremely easy sign!!!!
You mean the MLB Network isn't going to pan one of its members picks? Shocking!

That pick was a horrible reach with the built-in excuse that they wouldn't be compensated if the pick didn't sign.

I'll give them a pass (in that they can't get that pick back next year) that Laumann knew what it would take to keep Smoral away from his NC commit and that it was way, way past any budget Jerry would allow.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:42 PM
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More like this draft class sucks, so why not take some risky, high upside high schoolers? It's not a bad philosophy for this year's draft.

Tomorrow will be college pitchers from Rounds 2-10.
In theory it's a good plan. But they have to be high upside. Keon simply is not.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:44 PM
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It was very unlikely that they would sign Smoral, so there was no reason to pick him. Nor was there a reason to make a pure absurd pick.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:54 PM
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I need an answer as to why Appel slipped to the Pirates.
I'm pretty pleased with getting Hawkins. We'll see if this high upside approach pays off. As far as Barnum goes, the guy has some power and bat speed. He will need to understand the nuances of hitting instead of getting by on physical gifts.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:07 PM
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Keon Barnum was a Miami signee so let's not act like he's a complete bum. The kid is 19 years old and has a long time to develop. It's insane to, on the day of the draft, declare any pick a complete reach or a sure thing. To do so show little understanding of how the draft actually plays out.

Smorel would have been a wasted pick. The White Sox historically have never paid above slot and certainly won't do so when there are strict caps in place. To do so for a high school pitcher, coming off injury noless, wasn't going to happen.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:26 PM
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Not a bum, just a 2 round reach.
Reaches are easier and cheaper to sign at or below slot.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:41 PM
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In theory it's a good plan. But they have to be high upside. Keon simply is not.
I don't know much about Keon at all, but MLBTV compared his upside to Ryan Howard...so I would say that qualifies. He has a LONG way to go to get there but he's a left handed bat with power. Let's not act like he's hit his ceiling. FWIW the pick a few slots earlier was compared to Scott Podsednik...now that is a safe pick.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:49 PM
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Not a bum, just a 2 round reach.
Reaches are easier and cheaper to sign at or below slot.
It's a reach according to various websites, and even some scouts...based on talent alone.

I know we dismiss signability as being cheap, but it actually matters in baseball, particularly for high school players anyway, especialy under the new rules.

The 37th player on MLBTV's big board may not even get drafted since it's going to take big money to sign him away from football.

There may have been better options but if it frees up money to sign another prospect or to invest in a free agent, it's not a terrible pick. Time will tell is all I'm saying.

His stats look pretty pedestrian admittedly (15 RBI's in a Florida high school season hitting over .400 and with 5HR?) but he does have a good looking swing, from the left side...those don't grow on trees. This is a high upside pick in my opinion, that may or may not pan out, but likely won't cost much outside a wasted pick (and at 48 there are few guarantees so I can life with it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:39 AM
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I don't follow the draft like you guys, but let's not go crazy dogging the Sox. We're getting more production from the last few drafts than any other team in baseball. Sale=top of the line stud. Reed=stud. Beckham=decent player, potential stud. Mitchell=huge setback with good upside. I'm an optimist though.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:49 AM
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I don't follow the draft like you guys, but let's not go crazy dogging the Sox. We're getting more production from the last few drafts than any other team in baseball. Sale=top of the line stud. Reed=stud. Beckham=decent player, potential stud. Mitchell=huge setback with good upside. I'm an optimist though.
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