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Old 07-03-2011, 06:55 PM
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Seriously?

They would be adding another station to station baserunner to a team that already has Konerko, Dunn, Quentin, and to a lesser extent AJ.

I sometimes wonder if you have any grasp at all of how this game works.
Is Dunn that much faster than Viciedo? If Viciedo bats .230 as DH, that's almost .70 points higher than Dunn. Is Viciedo at least a .230 MLB hitter?

Daver, what would your expectations be for Viciedo if he took the DH spot from Dunn? As a DH, there's no defensive liability. Does the DH have to be faster than Dunn? I don't see your point? Isn't the DH's job hitting?
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:01 PM
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Is Dunn that much faster than Viciedo? If Viciedo bats .230 as DH, that's almost .70 points higher than Dunn. Is Viciedo at least a .230 MLB hitter?

Daver, what would your expectations be for Viciedo if he took the DH spot from Dunn? As a DH, there's no defensive liability. Does the DH have to be faster than Dunn? I don't see your point? Isn't the DH's job hitting?

The White Sox are not going to sit a player that is making 11 million a year for an untested rookie.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:03 PM
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The White Sox are not going to sit a player that is making 11 million a year for an untested rookie.
You just lost all credibility with that statement.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:12 PM
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The White Sox are not going to sit a player that is making 11 million a year for an untested rookie.
I agree with your view of reality, but at some point, someone has to to bite the bullet for Dunn (barring a fortitious injury). When does he get benched? (or sent down to work things out? He'll clear waivers)

Viciedo aside, Teahan, Morel, Vizquel, and anyone from the minor league system is a better option than Dunn at DH.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:27 PM
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I agree with your view of reality, but at some point, someone has to to bite the bullet for Dunn (barring a fortitious injury). When does he get benched? (or sent down to work things out? He'll clear waivers)

Viciedo aside, Teahan, Morel, Vizquel, and anyone from the minor league system is a better option than Dunn at DH.
He can't be sent down, it has nothing to do with waivers. I would not be at all surprised if the majority of the roster was not put on waivers after the deadline to make it easier to make waiver deals.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:30 PM
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He can't be sent down, it has nothing to do with waivers. I would not be at all surprised if the majority of the roster was not put on waivers after the deadline to make it easier to make waiver deals.
Yeah, he would have to clear waivers.

Not sure he'd do that regardless of how horrible he's playing.

Although, if someone did claim him, the team would most likely decide to just let his contract go to someone else like the Blue Jays did with Rios in 2009 when we claimed him.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:41 PM
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Yeah, he would have to clear waivers.

Not sure he'd do that regardless of how horrible he's playing.

Although, if someone did claim him, the team would most likely decide to just let his contract go to someone else like the Blue Jays did with Rios in 2009 when we claimed him.
What are you talking about?

He can't be sent down, it has nothing to do with clearing waivers.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:45 PM
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He can't be sent down, it has nothing to do with waivers. I would not be at all surprised if the majority of the roster was not put on waivers after the deadline to make it easier to make waiver deals.
Release him. If he's claimed, so be it. Otherwise, he can walk away, salary intact. At some point someone has to decide if Dunn's on the bus, or waiting for it.
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Release him. If he's claimed, so be it. Otherwise, he can walk away, salary intact. At some point someone has to decide if Dunn's on the bus, or waiting for it.
You do realize if he is released and WHEN someone picks him up, the other team only has to pay him league minimum and the Sox are responsible for the rest of his contract?
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:53 PM
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Release him. If he's claimed, so be it. Otherwise, he can walk away, salary intact. At some point someone has to decide if Dunn's on the bus, or waiting for it.
That's not going to happen, it's the equivilent of flushing 22 million dollars down the toilet.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:57 PM
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You do realize if he is released and WHEN someone picks him up, the other team only has to pay him league minimum and the Sox are responsible for the rest of his contract?
I do realize that. Responsibity has a price. Sometimes it's extremely steep.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:57 PM
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I don't consider 38 games for Viciedo as being tested. Yeah, he did well last September, but that's still only a month.
I would wish people would drop the idea of DFAing Dunn. It's not going to happen because it is just a reckless decision on the Sox part. No professional organization, in any business, would throw away that much money because they can.
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Old 07-03-2011, 08:07 PM
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That's not going to happen, it's the equivilent of flushing 22 million dollars down the toilet.
Having him on the roster is flushing 22 million down the toilet and taking up a roster spot. Getting rid of him is easier said than done.
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Old 07-03-2011, 08:07 PM
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I don't consider 38 games for Viciedo as being tested. Yeah, he did well last September, but that's still only a month.
I would wish people would drop the idea of DFAing Dunn. It's not going to happen because it is just a reckless decision on the Sox part. No professional organization, in any business, would throw away that much money because they can.
He got a taste of major league pitching and passed with flying colors.

Now he's doing exceptionally well in AAA.

You can't keep him down there. You have to let him prove himself.
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Old 07-03-2011, 08:13 PM
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He got a taste of major league pitching and passed with flying colors.

If striking out in 1 out of every four at bats while walking exactly twice is flying colors, your standards are incredibly low.

The rest of us prefer to view things in a more realistic fashion.
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