Ryne Sandberg is new Ironpigs Manager

[LITTLE NELL]

Going to manage in the Phillies system.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5808540

[Fenway]

http://ironpigsbaseball.com/pressbox...rticle_id=1109

[g0g0]

So either he must have got some assurances about a possible Phillies call-up, or some assurances of not being a contender for a Cubs position. I know he was drafted by Philly, but to take the same position somewhere else after saying he wanted to manage in the bigs? There has to be something else that Philly is promising him. Funny that he wasn't willing to wait a couple more years in the Cubs farm system.

[Fenway]

Red Sox were talking to him about Pawtucket but Francona isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

[bestkosher]

It makes me wonder if the reason why Ryne left was because of the circus that him being with in the orgainization was causing. Almost from day 1 this past baseball season he was constatly being asked are you going to be the next manager. Then when the job opened he was linked numerous times to the position. Even after not getting it, if he stayed in the organization he would be looked at as the perrenial backup to the head coach should he faulter. This would not only affect him but the team he coaches as well not knowing whether the person will be there from week to week. Even after all the assurance he could give the players there would always be doubt.

[downstairs]

Originally Posted by g0g0

So either he must have got some assurances about a possible Phillies call-up, or some assurances of not being a contender for a Cubs position. I know he was drafted by Philly, but to take the same position somewhere else after saying he wanted to manage in the bigs? There has to be something else that Philly is promising him. Funny that he wasn't willing to wait a couple more years in the Cubs farm system.

Why doesn't it make sense? Its not like he has less of a chance to work in the bigs because he moved to the Philly system. Lets say the Mariners fire their manager next year... no reason he couldn't be contacted for that job

[g0g0]

Originally Posted by downstairs

Why doesn't it make sense? Its not like he has less of a chance to work in the bigs because he moved to the Philly system. Lets say the Mariners fire their manager next year... no reason he couldn't be contacted for that job

Why didn't he stay in Iowa then? What would make you take a lateral move when you were succeeding in your current position? Especially when your goal is to manage in the bigs and that was your sole focus? Something has to be cooking there in Philly.

[slavko]

Originally Posted by g0g0

Why didn't he stay in Iowa then? What would make you take a lateral move when you were succeeding in your current position? Especially when your goal is to manage in the bigs and that was your sole focus? Something has to be cooking there in Philly.

OR, nothing is cooking here, especially after being told to pay his dues until the job opened up and then being passed over when it did.

It's a law of business that once you've been passed over the odds of you getting the job you want go down precipitously because for Top Management to pick you later on, they would have to admit they were wrong in the first place. And Top Management doesn't like to admit it was wrong, ever.

[cards press box]

Originally Posted by g0g0

So either he must have got some assurances about a possible Phillies call-up, or some assurances of not being a contender for a Cubs position. I know he was drafted by Philly, but to take the same position somewhere else after saying he wanted to manage in the bigs? There has to be something else that Philly is promising him. Funny that he wasn't willing to wait a couple more years in the Cubs farm system.

Originally Posted by Fenway

Red Sox were talking to him about Pawtucket but Francona isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

It is fair to assume that neither Mike Quade nor Terry Francona is going anywhere soon. Charlie Manuel turns 67 next year and the Phillies might view Ryne Sandberg as a possible successor. The Phils can now monitor how well Sandberg does as a AAA manager in their system.

[ewokpelts]

Ryno was done with Jim Hendry ****ing with him. He still has friends(like dallas green, who was the gm that drafted him in philly AND traded for him to come to the cubs) in Philly, and this is a chance to see how well he does outside an organization that probably gave him free passes in the past.

[Fenway]

Originally Posted by ewokpelts

Ryno was done with Jim Hendry ****ing with him. He still has friends(like dallas green, who was the gm that drafted him in philly AND traded for him to come to the cubs) in Philly, and this is a chance to see how well he does outside an organization that probably gave him free passes in the past.

Ryno's plaque in Cooperstown says PHILADELPHIA NL 1981

Manuel turns 67 in January and Dallas Green still works for the Phillies. Quade won the Flubs job by going 24-13.

As I posted yesterday Epstein wanted Ryno for Pawtucket but Francona will be in Boston as long as he wants...Terry does have health issues but they have improved.

[slavko]

Originally Posted by Fenway

Ryno's plaque in Cooperstown says PHILADELPHIA NL 1981

Manuel turns 67 in January and Dallas Green still works for the Phillies. Quade won the Flubs job by going 24-13.

As I posted yesterday Epstein wanted Ryno for Pawtucket but Francona will be in Boston as long as he wants...Terry does have health issues but they have improved.

And this would indicate that he played in a few games that year for them. His Cubs service time is duly noted on the line below.

[Smokey Burg]

Not really a surprise. He always had compliments for Dallas Green, Jim Frey and others involved with the Phillies organization. He said a lot of good things about the Phillies in the book that he "wrote" lo these many years ago. He wasn't as complimentary towards the Cubs, IIRC. Also, the cubs are well known throughout the baseball world for their thorough analysis and uncanny ability to always make the correct decision regarding personnel.