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Old 09-04-2010, 11:56 PM
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Most recent line: will be updated to 20 home runs by tomorrow.

I wonder when he will begin making his impact. This kid can become a monster.
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:03 AM
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Not optimistic at all. He's a liability at 3B, and a move to 1B brings with it increased offensive expectations as well as more defensive questions. Couple that with no plate discipline whatsoever and I have low expectations.

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Viciedo has still walked just 9 times in 416 total at bats this season about 5 hours ago via web
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:34 AM
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http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...pbp&pid=493364

Most recent line: will be updated to 20 home runs by tomorrow.

I wonder when he will begin making his impact. This kid can become a monster.
Monster??? He can also be a flop. He may have the worse walk/strikeout ratio of any player in AAA 10/76. It was worse in his short stint in Chicago. I am sure management is not sure if he will ever have a position in the field but he is 21 and time will tell. Until he learns the strike zone he is a long way from a Major League everyday player even as a DH.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:45 AM
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I have this recurring nightmare that the Sox cant reach agreement with Konerko this off season......and on opening day 2011 I hear Honda announce our starting first baseman is Dayan......
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:00 AM
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It appears that Viciedo was born to DH.

Unfortunately, you need some maturity, experience, and plate discipline to do that, and he is lacking in all three right now.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:05 AM
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It appears that Viciedo was born to DH.

Unfortunately, you need some maturity, experience, and plate discipline to do that, and he is lacking in all three right now.
The kid is 20 years old, I am hard pressed to name many 20 year old major leaguers who have a lot of plate discipline.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:19 AM
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The kid is 20 years old, I am hard pressed to name many 20 year old major leaguers who have a lot of plate discipline.
21, but thanks for playing.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:45 AM
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I think the problem with Dayan is his ridiculously aggressive approach at the plate. Considering how much contact he makes with that big swing of his, he must have a decent idea of where the pitch will land. Buddy Bell and his crew will have to pretty much force this kid to calm down and be more selective. Some guys just develop plate discipline slower than other guys. I know this is a terrible comparison, but A-Gon took a while to be the walking beast he is today and he had a rather below average K/BB ratio down in the minors at the age of 21.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:50 AM
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The kid is 20 years old, I am hard pressed to name many 20 year old major leaguers who have a lot of plate discipline.
He shouldn't be a major leaguer yet. His 2.7% BB rate this year in the minors isn't going to cut it. Plate discipline isn't something that just turns on like a light switch. And it certainly isn't something to be learned in the majors. I don't think Dayan is wired to become a walk machine, but I do think he needs to become more selective if he plans on having a successful major league career. Especially considering the defensive value he lacks.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:57 AM
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yes, but not a star RT @ProfessorFog: @Kevin_Goldstein Dayan Viciedo. Can he be successful without significant alterations to his approach? 5 minutes ago via TweetDeck
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:10 PM
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I really thought he was being showcased for a trading deadline deal. Too bad because I think that was when he had the most worth he ever will have.
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Old 09-05-2010, 07:26 PM
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Plate discipline is the most obvious difference between Viciedo and The Big Hurt. It's why Frank's going to be a first ballot HoFer and Viciedo will be a journeyman DH.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:21 PM
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I love how certain fans are writing off a 21 year old kid b/c he doesn't have plate discipline. Plate discipline can be developed (I'm not saying he will, but stating he won't like it's a fact is asinine.)
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:39 PM
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I love how certain fans are writing off a 21 year old kid b/c he doesn't have plate discipline. Plate discipline can be developed (I'm not saying he will, but stating he won't like it's a fact is asinine.)
You can teach players to hit a breaking ball too, yet the Sox have failed miserably in accomplishing that for quite awhile now.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:09 PM
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He has another factor which hurts his trade value:
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