Why no weekday afternoon games until June???

[HomeFish]

I agree with voodochile here. As fans, we want the ownership to make as much money as possible, because that increases the chance that payroll is increased.

Like I said in 2003 when they sold the stadium rights, I'd be happy to cheer for the "Chicago Cell Phones" if it got them a substantially bigger payroll. I'm actually not sure if I'd still go that far post-2005, but the basic principle is still accurate.

[Nellie_Fox]

Originally Posted by HomeFish

I'd be happy to cheer for the "Chicago Cell Phones" if it got them a substantially bigger payroll.

I think that would probably be too far for me.

[Dub25]

Originally Posted by Nellie_Fox

I think that would probably be too far for me.

Why? I would cheer for the Chicago Cell Phones, too.

[Nellie_Fox]

Originally Posted by Dub25

Why? I would cheer for the Chicago Cell Phones, too.

Go ahead. I think that if baseball ever gets to the point of European soccer, with all the ads all over the uniforms, I'll find something else to occupy my time. I still call the park Comiskey. I'm a life-long White Sox fan; I could not cheer for the Chicago Cell Phones.

[Dub25]

Originally Posted by Nellie_Fox

Go ahead. I think that if baseball ever gets to the point of European soccer, with all the ads all over the uniforms, I'll find something else to occupy my time. I still call the park Comiskey. I'm a life-long White Sox fan; I could not cheer for the Chicago Cell Phones.

Who cares what the park is called. I go to see a team with a chance to win the 2010 world series and hopefully 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and so on and so forth.

[voodoochile]

Originally Posted by Dub25

Who cares what the park is called. I go to see a team with a chance to win the 2010 world series and hopefully 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and so on and so forth.

They aren't talking about the ballpark's name, but the actual team name...

[Jerko]

Originally Posted by voodoochile

They have day games on weekends too. Why would you want the team to willingly sacrifice money that might lead to a better on field product?

they've always had day games. they're not going to suck any worse if they play 6 weekday games compared to 3. and like i said, a few of the day games outdrew the game the night before and one was actually the most attended game of the series.

[ohiosoxfan]

To get a lot of those kids/senior groups in, you have to discount tickets, so the ticket revenue might not be as high even if the attendance is equal or better than a night game. Also, kids aren't drinking beer which is one of the highest profit items in the ballpark, and over-21 fans tend not to drink as much beer as they normally would at a game- same with Sunday afternoons. Soda is also a high profit item, but fans don't usually drink 5-6 sodas like they might with beer. Unfortunate, since I really like the afternoon games as well- allows me to drive back to Ohio after the game and save on hotel. Plus- its just nice to watch baseball in the sunshine!

[Sad]

Originally Posted by Jerko

they've always had day games. they're not going to suck any worse if they play 6 weekday games compared to 3. and like i said, a few of the day games outdrew the game the night before and one was actually the most attended game of the series.

I've always liked the weekday games-
gives me an excuse to not be in the office... we call them "offsite meetings"

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by DumpJerry

I noticed about three weeks ago that there are only three weekday day games. Rather than start a thread here about it to start endless speculation, I went to the source. I asked my rep about it.

My rep told me that dllrbll7 is right. The Sox get hammered on attendance at weekday day games, so they said the heck with the MLBPA's request for day games on get-a-way days and made them night games to boost attendance. I like this since I hate weekday day games as a season ticket holder (impossible to find someone to take off from work to go to a game and they always seem to fall on days when I have unexpected brush fires to put out at the office).

on the flip side, the best deals are the april/may day games....i love seeing scalpers sell lower deck tix for $5

[Ranger]

Originally Posted by Dub25

I might not be reading this right but the money is made from concessions and not ticket sales. Even though we gripe about ticket price increases, the cost of a ticket still blows away the price of a beer or nachos.

Correct.

Originally Posted by Nellie_Fox

Go ahead. I think that if baseball ever gets to the point of European soccer, with all the ads all over the uniforms, I'll find something else to occupy my time. I still call the park Comiskey. I'm a life-long White Sox fan; I could not cheer for the Chicago Cell Phones.

You would really stop watching baseball if they started putting advertising on the uniforms? I couldn't care less, I don't think. If it meant a higher payroll and a more competitive team, then I'd be all for it. The product on the field wouldn't change, it would still be the same game. I don't know how a company name on a uniform could ruin your baseball experience. Does that mean you would refuse to watch little league baseball, too?

[Nellie_Fox]

Originally Posted by Ranger

You would really stop watching baseball if they started putting advertising on the uniforms?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Ranger

I couldn't care less, I don't think. If it meant a higher payroll and a more competitive team, then I'd be all for it.

Since all the teams would be doing it, it wouldn't change the competitive nature. In fact, the same teams that are the "big revenue" teams would attract the most revenue for said ads, further imbalancing things.

Little League wouldn't exist without sponsors. MLB does just fine without ads on the uniforms.

[Noneck]

Originally Posted by Ranger

You would really stop watching baseball if they started putting advertising on the uniforms? I couldn't care less, I don't think. If it meant a higher payroll and a more competitive team, then I'd be all for it. The product on the field wouldn't change, it would still be the same game. I don't know how a company name on a uniform could ruin your baseball experience. Does that mean you would refuse to watch little league baseball, too?

If all teams advertised, yes I would believe all teams payroll would increase, salaries would go up and maybe profits also.

Would it lower lower ticket prices? I doubt it.

Would it make the Sox more competitive? Not if all teams did the same.

[Frontman]

Originally Posted by Ranger

You would really stop watching baseball if they started putting advertising on the uniforms? I couldn't care less, I don't think. If it meant a higher payroll and a more competitive team, then I'd be all for it. The product on the field wouldn't change, it would still be the same game. I don't know how a company name on a uniform could ruin your baseball experience. Does that mean you would refuse to watch little league baseball, too?

I don't have a problem per se; if say the sleeve would have a sponsor for the season.

What I would have a problem with is if the uniform would then resemble a NASCAR flame suit. THEN I would have a problem.

[IlliniSox05]

Originally Posted by TDog

In 1976, there were complaints from fans, amplified by Harry Caray,that there were so many night games in April. Harry Caray said it was because the league expected the White Sox to be playing their home games indoors in Seattle.

This may deserve another thread, but does anyone know why schedules for teams in colder climates aren't front-loaded with road games in warmer climate cities and/or domed stadiums? I'm not saying we should play 26 road games in April, but shouldn't MLB schedulers make a conscious effort to have us play in Anaheim or Seattle in Opening Week, rather than opening at home vs. Cleveland?

Seems like it would help cut down on PPD games. I recall a friday night Sox/Twins game in early April 2007 that was PPD because it was too COLD. And we all remember the one Indians homestand that was moved to Miller Park a few years ago because of heavy snow (I don't recall who they were playing).