Sox un-retire Aparicio's # for Vizquel.

[Thome25]

Originally Posted by dickallen15

He wore 10, then it was retired. When he returned to the Bulls he wore 11.

I believe that it was retired while Armstrong was wearing it.....Love let him continue wearing it.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally Posted by Thome25

I believe that it was retired while Armstrong was wearing it.....Love let him continue wearing it.

You can't force someone to change numbers. That's why Mo Rivera is still wearing 42.

[dickallen15]

Originally Posted by Thome25

I believe that it was retired while Armstrong was wearing it.....Love let him continue wearing it.

It was retired in 1993. BJ came to the Bulls in 1989. He already was wearing it. He did continue to wear it after it was retired until he left the Bulls, but he was an active player already wearing the number. When he came back several years later he wore a different number. Did Bob change his mind?

I don't know why I feel so strongly about this, after all its just a number. I just think retiring numbers is silly if you let players wear them because the player who has the number retired may like them. There was a reason the number was retired.

The Miami Heat retired 23 in honor of MJ. I wonder if MJ likes a guy because he wears the Jordan brand, and he plays for the Heat, if he'll "let" him wear 23.

[g0g0]

I couldn't tell if Aparicio actually had a say in it or not from the ESPN article. But if he's okay with it then I guess it's fine. I would rather not have the number cheapened by other players. That's the whole point of retiring it. A player who made a great impact on the organization is rewarded with a little piece of the organization that no one else can claim (that particular number). Now let's hope Vizquel doesn't play like ****...

[dickallen15]

Originally Posted by g0g0

I couldn't tell if Aparicio actually had a say in it or not from the ESPN article. But if he's okay with it then I guess it's fine. I would rather not have the number cheapened by other players. That's the whole point of retiring it. A player who made a great impact on the organization is rewarded with a little piece of the organization that no one else can claim (that particular number). Now let's hope Vizquel doesn't play like ****...

So if Corky Miller was married to Carlton Fisk's daughter and he came to the Sox and wanted to wear 72, that wouldn't be a problem as long as Carlton said OK.

I understand Vizquel WAS a great player. He's a back up now. Who knows if he even lasts the season. It would be one thing for Vizquel to give the number its due with outstanding performances, but at this time, he's not that player.

I don't know why I used your post to respond, it was in general. You seem to agree with me in regard to at least the player should be reasonably expected to be outstanding while wearing the number.

[#1swisher]

Originally Posted by dickallen15

So if Corky Miller was married to Carlton Fisk's daughter and he came to the Sox and wanted to wear 72, that wouldn't be a problem as long as Carlton said OK.

I understand Vizquel WAS a great player. He's a back up now. Who knows if he even lasts the season. It would be one thing for Vizquel to give the number its due with outstanding performances, but at this time, he's not that player.

Let's put the number 11 in teal on his White Sox Jersey

[GoGoCrede]

Originally Posted by dickallen15

So if Corky Miller was married to Carlton Fisk's daughter and he came to the Sox and wanted to wear 72, that wouldn't be a problem as long as Carlton said OK.

I understand Vizquel WAS a great player. He's a back up now. Who knows if he even lasts the season. It would be one thing for Vizquel to give the number its due with outstanding performances, but at this time, he's not that player.

I don't know why I used your post to respond, it was in general. You seem to agree with me in regard to at least the player should be reasonably expected to be outstanding while wearing the number.

I understand you want to make sure that Aparicio is given due respect, but your comparison is strange, since the Fisk thing hasn't actually happened. My point is, it's a case-by-case basis. No need to make up wild events that have not actually happened to support your argument.

Let's see what Vizquel does first.

[spawn]

Originally Posted by dickallen15

So if Corky Miller was married to Carlton Fisk's daughter and he came to the Sox and wanted to wear 72, that wouldn't be a problem as long as Carlton said OK.

That's not even close to a comparison and you know it. Vizquel may be closer to retirement than his prime, but he was a great SS. Corky Miller has never been an adeuate ball player. Vizquel wearing the #11 is one great Venezuelan SS wearing the number of a formerly great Venezuelan SS. This post is absolutely ridiculous.

[g0g0]

Originally Posted by dickallen15

So if Corky Miller was married to Carlton Fisk's daughter and he came to the Sox and wanted to wear 72, that wouldn't be a problem as long as Carlton said OK.

I understand Vizquel WAS a great player. He's a back up now. Who knows if he even lasts the season. It would be one thing for Vizquel to give the number its due with outstanding performances, but at this time, he's not that player.

I don't know why I used your post to respond, it was in general. You seem to agree with me in regard to at least the player should be reasonably expected to be outstanding while wearing the number.

Ya! Leave me alone!

Originally Posted by #1swisher

Let's put the number 11 in teal on his White Sox Jersey

[spawn]

Originally Posted by GoGoCrede

I understand you want to make sure that Aparicio is given due respect, but your comparison is strange, since the Fisk thing hasn't actually happened. My point is, it's a case-by-case basis. No need to make up wild events that have not actually happened to support your argument.

It doesn't even come close to supporting his argument. I think it's funny that the one guy that would actually have a reason for not agreeing with this actually has no problem with it, and seems honored by it. Go figure.

[dickallen15]

Originally Posted by spawn

That's not even close to a comparison and you know it. Vizquel may be closer to retirement than his prime, but he was a great SS. Corky Miller has never been an adeuate ball player. Vizquel wearing the #11 is one great Venezuelan SS wearing the number of a formerly great Venezuelan SS. This post is absolutely ridiculous.

He's a 43 year old back up at this point. He has no business wearing Little Louie's number 11, that is the point. If it was so important for him to honor Louie he had plenty of time to do it. He wouldn't have even bothered here if 13 was available.

[hi im skot]

This is pretty much a non-story. Good for Aparicio and good for Vizquel.

Hardly controversial in my book.

[soxfanatlanta]

Originally Posted by dickallen15

The Miami Heat retired 23 in honor of MJ. I wonder if MJ likes a guy because he wears the Jordan brand, and he plays for the Heat, if he'll "let" him wear 23.

Good grief

I understand that this is a weird scenario, but please don't lose any sleep over this.

[GoGoCrede]

Originally Posted by dickallen15

He's a 43 year old back up at this point. He has no business wearing Little Louie's number 11, that is the point.

Again, if Aparicio is okay with it, who cares? He's the only one who actually matters in this argument. Who are any of us to decide what "business" Vizquel has wearing it, when Aparicio has already decided for us?

[Daver]

This thread is a hoot.