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Old 10-01-2009, 11:05 PM
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Default Weird 2009 White Sox Stat

Just running through some stats as the year comes to a close

Seattle has the top ERA in the AL, followed by the White Sox

Seattle and the White Sox have the lowest batting average in the AL, with the Sox having the fewest hits in the AL..

Bizarre
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:25 PM
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And since Seattle was coming off of a 100+ losing season, These stats were good enough for them to have a productive season.

On the other hand, coming off a division winning season, these similar stats produced a disappointing season for the Sox.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:38 PM
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Just running through some stats as the year comes to a close

Seattle has the top ERA in the AL, followed by the White Sox

Seattle and the White Sox have the lowest batting average in the AL, with the Sox having the fewest hits in the AL..

Bizarre
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:05 AM
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:16 AM
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Belies the old adage that pitching wins...you gotta hit the ball also. The teams that hit, Yanks,Red Sox and Angels, were the best teams.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:27 AM
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Belies the old adage that pitching wins...you gotta hit the ball also. The teams that hit, Yanks,Red Sox and Angels, were the best teams.
The Giants stand out as the all-pitch, no-hit team.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:48 AM
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Belies the old adage that pitching wins...you gotta hit the ball also. The teams that hit, Yanks,Red Sox and Angels, were the best teams.
It's really just out-of-the-ordinary. The pitching in the AL has been pretty ****ty this year overall.
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:13 AM
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It's really just out-of-the-ordinary. The pitching in the AL has been pretty ****ty this year overall.
true...last year the Sox had a better ERA, but were 6th or 7th in the AL.
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:15 AM
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The Giants stand out as the all-pitch, no-hit team.
yup....the Giants are 2nd in ERA in the NL and about 11 or 12th in BA

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Old 10-02-2009, 01:18 AM
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Belies the old adage that pitching wins...you gotta hit the ball also. The teams that hit, Yanks,Red Sox and Angels, were the best teams.
case in point....The Twins and Angels are near the top in BA in the AL, but below average in ERA....The Angels are in the postseason, the Twins knocking on the door

then again you have the Mets.....2nd in BA in the NL, and 12th or 13th in ERA
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:22 AM
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Well... to be fair, isn't the adage "Pitching and defense win championships"?

We had the first part, not exactly the second.
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:39 AM
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Well... to be fair, isn't the adage "Pitching and defense win championships"?

We had the first part, not exactly the second.
Yeah, we had that ERA stat but unfortunately those unearned runs still count in games. I'd like to see how many games the Sox lost due to unearned runs this year.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:26 AM
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Well... to be fair, isn't the adage "Pitching and defense win championships"?

We had the first part, not exactly the second.

I left out the defense part, just to bolster my arguement.

To me, our defense actually improved the second half,but we were winning more games the first half when we hit better and had worse defense. I would say in order of responsiblity for this season from worse to best:

Hitting
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starters

The first three were all subpar overall...but hitting and bullpen were passable the first half..
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:28 PM
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Despite the horrible defense for most of the season, the Sox finished fourth in the AL by allowing 4.57 runs per game (league average 4.74).

I thought the defense improved the second half. And I thought the infield defense has been pretty good for the last month or so. Sure there are still the physical errors - but it seems it has been some time since we have had a brain cramp from an infielder. TCM has gotten much better on his throws as well.
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:31 PM
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Despite the horrible defense for most of the season, the Sox finished fourth in the AL by allowing 4.57 runs per game (league average 4.74).
Here's a breakdown of the teams in the AL with highest numbers of unearned runs allowed: (the second column is total runs vs earned runs)

Kansas City 814-738....76 unearned runs
Oakland 747-676....71 unearned runs
White Sox 726-659....67 unearned runs
Seattle 681-616....65 unearned runs

On a related note, I looked back over the past 10 years at the defensive numbers for the White Sox, and the years with the least amount of errors were 05 and 06, which coincidentally were two of the winningest years in the last decade.

Surprisingly, the year with the highest number of errors was 2000, when the Sox won the Central, @ 133 errors (as opposed to this year, 112 errors)

Of course, the Sox hit .286 as a team that year
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