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Old 08-08-2009, 03:19 PM
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Randar, I agree that their experiences are vastly different. I'd add a couple of more points: Mitchell was a highly regarded baseball prospect as a high school player (the Twins flirted with picking him in the 1st round) for whom football was his second-best sport. Fields was always a football-first prospect, so he is a bit more raw.

But I'd caution that Fields strikeout problems stem from swinging and missing a lot. Often at fastballs in the strike zone. Mitchell gets into to trouble because he takes too many strikes. Mitchell needs to get more aggressive. Fields might need better bat speed. One of those two can be taught.
Either way, this fetish KW has for football players is a bit worrying, in the sense that it hasn't always worked out. [See Fields, Borchard, Owens]

I'd rather just have good baseball players, irrespective of their backgrounds, in the team.


Oh yeah, I almost forgot: Fields still sucks at baseball.

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Old 08-08-2009, 03:25 PM
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For what it's worth, Hudson is likely to pitch on Sunday. Conveniently, that game will be on MILB.TV

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...edia/video.jsp
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:03 PM
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For what it's worth, Hudson is likely to pitch on Sunday. Conveniently, that game will be on MILB.TV

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...edia/video.jsp
Thanks for the info. I was actually wondering myself when he'd be making his Charlotte debut. I'll definitely be tuning in to watch this one.
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Old 08-09-2009, 08:14 AM
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I sure hope he pitches today, cause I'll be there
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:12 AM
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I sure hope he pitches today, cause I'll be there
He will. It's official and on the Knights website now.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:11 PM
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Game's on. Into the bottom of the first.

Here comes Hudson...

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Old 08-09-2009, 01:18 PM
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Hudson not doing so hot right now.

Lead off bunt single, hbp, and now he's walked the 3rd hitter.

Bases loaded and nobody out.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:20 PM
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That is rather unusual for him. I'd imagine he is a bit nervous/overexcited.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:27 PM
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Hudson gets out of it just giving up 2 runs

in the inning

2 ER 2 H 1 BB 1 HBP 1 K

I really like what I see from his stuff, unfortunatelly they don't show a speed gun so I don't know how fast he's pitching. The only thing that concerns me is his release point, it looks like it could cause some arm troubles in the future.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:35 PM
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Rats, no Flowers catching today.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:40 PM
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Rats, no Flowers catching today.
Yep. That made me sad as I will probably watch the game later.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:54 PM
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A nice inning for Hudson in the 2nd

1 H 1 K 0 R

He's made a lot of hitters look bad with his changeup.

Charlotte leads 6-2.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:55 PM
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A nice inning for Hudson in the 2nd

1 H 1 K 0 R

He's made a lot of hitters look bad with his changeup.

Charlotte leads 6-2.
How does his Slider look? Supposedly that's his outpitch but his change is supposed to be much better this year as well.
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:05 PM
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How does his Slider look? Supposedly that's his outpitch but his change is supposed to be much better this year as well.
I haven't seen much of it. He's been mostly fastball changeup today. I don't think he's had good control with it. For the times he's gotten it over though, it's looked good.
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:28 PM
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I think with Fields it's less about his defense, and more about his regression with the bat. After his first extended stint with the team he was showing signs of being that middle order bat and even after his crappy limited stay with the team in 2008 several posters were still ready to give him the benefit of the doubt, but his bat if anything regressed this season and his .655 OPS in a third of a season left most posters willing to look in a different direction. In addition, his seeming inability to catch up to a decent Major League fastball looks like a death knell even to people like me who don't generally pay that much attention to those types of details (though I'm trying to get better). It seems on some levels that even with his improved stance this year, he still struggled to hit consistently and his K rate is still through the roof.

He's had nearly 700 PA so far and all of his stats have declined from his first stay with the team.

Joe came out posted a better initial OPS in his first extended stay with the team and then continued to be mostly league average and while he threw up a bunch of errors his first few years, he also showed an instinctive ability to field at third that Fields never has. Crede actually strikes me as one of those rare athletes who doesn't need to look to see where he is in relation to the ball or the stands. He just knows. His kinesthetic sense seems to be off the charts.
My issues with Josh are
1. big hole in his swing which results in way too many swings with no contact.
2. Does not have naturally good hands at third,imo.
3. not really nimble at third either...some big guys at third have the good feet...not josh.

Joe had
1. history of being mvp in the minors...great hitter down there.
2. made some errors but always had good hands.
3. natural good movement,specially to his right..Gordo has not mastered that yet.

Gordo has:
1. great natural hitter
2. very good ss hands
3. very athletic

But has to work on going to the right.
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