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Old 05-27-2009, 10:16 PM
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Is it possible that one of reasons for the move is to have Retherford and Viciedo at permanant positions because of the "log jam" in the infield at AA?
It would be a complete stunner if either of those guys ever played an inning at 3B for the Chicago White Sox.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:21 PM
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I was talking Danks OBP .456, leading the Barrons.
Got ya!

I want to see more than 65 AB's. He misses a ton of pitches. He's got the speed and defense, but I'm worried that he's being rushed because it's BA or nothing.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:11 PM
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http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=4348

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Old 05-27-2009, 11:24 PM
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This really isnt that big of a deal. Look at the past drafts and you will see that it is not out of the ordinary for highly touted college players to get called up early.

Price, Weiters, Porcello(he was out of HS), Longoria, Lincecum, Morrow, Braun, Gordon, Zimmerman, Tulowitzki, Ryan Perry(selected the same year as Beckham)

All of these guys were brought up within 2 years of their draft time. And thats a pretty damn good list of players. If Beckham continues to hit in AAA then I see no reason why he cant play in Chicago soon.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:36 PM
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You need to do your homework. The White Sox minor league development flaws date back to before Wilder was hired in 2003.
It was actually 2004 but whatever. The changes made by Bell far surpass anything Wilder ever did to change the organization's development philosophy.

If you want to cry and join the bandwagon, go ahead. Every organization has failed at developing talent at some point. In my opinion, this organization is headed in a very positive direction in terms of player development and my feelings are shared by the few contacts I actually have within the Sox minor league system.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:38 PM
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Sox Prospects that have developed into quality MLB players--at least for one season-- in recent history (ordered by how recently it happened):
Frank Francisco....Texas Rangers Closer
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:13 AM
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If you want to cry and join the bandwagon, go ahead. Every organization has failed at developing talent at some point. In my opinion, this organization is headed in a very positive direction in terms of player development and my feelings are shared by the few contacts I actually have within the Sox minor league system.
I certainly hope people in the Sox minor league system think they're developing talent properly.

I'm excited about the talent the Sox have accumulated, but I was also excited in 2000, when we had the #1 rated farm system in all of baseball, and all that produced was a CF (Rowand), 3B (Crede), AAAA OF (Borchard), mediocre SP (Garland), and underwhelming SP turned decent RP (Rauch). Has there been a team in the last 20 years that has produced as little talent as the Sox have? Buehrle, Maggs, and Caballo are the only successful products of the Sox's minor league system from the 1990s that I can think of. That's a pretty lean haul.

We'll see. I have hopes for Beckham, but after that... Eh.
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:23 AM
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If you want to cry and join the bandwagon, go ahead.
The only one doing anything remotely close to crying is yourself.
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:26 AM
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Sox Prospects that have developed into quality MLB players--at least for one season-- in recent history (ordered by how recently it happened):

-Floyd (seemed to figure it out with the Sox, at least for one season)
-Danks (originally a TX prospect, but really turned the corner with the Sox)
-Ryan Sweeney (developed here, but immediately thrived in OAK)
-Jenks (LAA prospect but found his niche here)
-Cotts (came from OAK, but found his role with CHW)
-Rauch (found niche in MTL but was a CHW prospect)
-Crede
-Rowand (I present the can of worms. Please don't open it.)
-Garland
-Buehrle
-Lee
-Maggs (original HOU but developed in the CHW system)
-Ray Ray
Magglio was signed by the White Sox and all of his minor league stats are with Sox affiliates. Where did you get the idea that he was originally a Houston product?

Also Ryan Sweeney is not "thriving" in Oakland.
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:59 AM
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Also Ryan Sweeney is not "thriving" in Oakland.
Ryan Sweeney has turned out to be the arguably best defensive CF in baseball and definitely in the AL.

We traded the wrong ****ing guy - do you have cable? On this site, people will argue, but people who follow him (and have cable) know.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:02 AM
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Ryan Sweeney has turned out to be the arguably best defensive CF in baseball and definitely in the AL.
Huh?
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:07 AM
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lmgtfy.com

Look up Ryan Sweeney, 09. Or ESPN, he has like 2 webgems saving 5+ runs.

Or we can go with your helpful "huh?", like I'm obligated to do anything more than this post.

Or, best of all - do your own work.
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Ryan Sweeney has turned out to be the arguably best defensive CF in baseball and definitely in the AL.

We traded the wrong ****ing guy - do you have cable? On this site, people will argue, but people who follow him (and have cable) know.
Since arriving in Oakland, Sweeney has spent only 52% of his defensive innings in CF.

He's not even a natural CF. The only reason he'd be playing CF for us is because he's still young enough to cover the Cell's small OF.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:09 AM
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lmgtfy.com

Look up Ryan Sweeney, 09. Or ESPN, he has like 2 webgems saving 5+ runs.

Or we can go with your helpful "huh?", like I'm obligated to do anything more than this post.

Or, best of all - do your own work.
That's your evidence? Ha!
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:10 AM
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lmgtfy.com

Look up Ryan Sweeney, 09. Or ESPN, he has like 2 webgems saving 5+ runs.

Or we can go with your helpful "huh?", like I'm obligated to do anything more than this post.

Or, best of all - do your own work.
Yeah if he has two Web Gems, he is obviously the best defensive CF in baseball.
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