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Old 05-27-2009, 10:15 PM
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I'm very glad to see that the Sox are continuing the long tradition of rushing players through the system just so they can watch them fail, that philosophy has had a dramatic success rate in the past.

So much for Buddy Bell and his statements on sweeping changes in the organizations approach to developing talent, and here it is, the same old song and dance.

I think Beckham is the exception to your arguement.

The Sox have not had a talent like this in the farm for quite a long time, a talent who doesn't have that many holes in his game.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:23 PM
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I'm afraid when he's up here he won't live up to the expectations
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Just curious, based on what?
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Absolutely nothing.
Wow...one of the most honest posters I have ever seen on WSI. Well done 23. Very well done.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:29 PM
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Buddy Bell and his Fall of 2008 personnel changes were in place before Dave Wilder was fired in May of 2008?
You need to do your homework. The White Sox minor league development flaws date back to before Wilder was hired in 2003.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:39 PM
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Boers and Bernstein? That was a hilarious call.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:47 PM
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Boers and Bernstein? That was a hilarious call.


Ohhh, that was when a dumb ass Cub caller, called and said isn't it ironic, which made no sense. I get it now!
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:48 PM
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I've said this in another thread, show me a prospect Bell has rushed. Danks? He is 9pts from hitting .400.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:01 PM
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I've said this in another thread, show me a prospect Bell has rushed. Danks? He is 9pts from hitting .400.
He's been here, what 18 months? Danks is hitting well in 60 AB's at AA, but his K's are still a worry. That needs to be corrected before another promotion and questionable that he shouldn't have been advanced without cutting it down in A+.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:01 PM
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Boers and Bernstein? That was a hilarious call.

Yes that was the context of my post. It had to do with Irony also.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:03 PM
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Wow...one of the most honest posters I have ever seen on WSI. Well done 23. Very well done.
Thanks, I was just stating he might not live up to expectations by chance, not because of how he has performed in the minors.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:05 PM
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I think if Beckham was up in the big leagues, then you could say he is being rushed. But he played all 4 years of college, got used to the wood bat (he used wood bats in the summer leagues during college) last summer in Class A, and is obviously handling AA pitching.

So why not move him up to AAA. If he can equate his performance against older and more advanced pitchers, then maybe he deserves a shot at the big club later this year. If not, a challenge can be good for some players, especially ones who have had mostly success up to now.

So best case, he's with the Sox this year, worst case he's back in AA the rest of the year.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:08 PM
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He's been here, what 18 months? Danks is hitting well in 60 AB's at AA, but his K's are still a worry. That needs to be corrected before another promotion and questionable that he shouldn't have been advanced without cutting it down in A+.


I believe he is leading AA in OBP, IIRC.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:10 PM
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I think if Beckham was up in the big leagues, then you could say he is being rushed. But he played all 4 years of college, got used to the wood bat last summer in Class A, and is obviously handling AA pitching.

So why not move him up to AAA. If he can equate his performance against older and more advanced pitchers, then maybe he deserves a shot at the big club later this year. If not, a challenge can be good for some players, especially ones who have had mostly success up to now.

So best case, he's with the Sox this year, worst case he's back in AA the rest of the year.

Also didn't he play in the summer league, the name of the league escapes me, Tyler Flowers also played in the league, Beckham hit like .400 in that league?
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:13 PM
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Is it possible that one of reasons for the move is to have Retherford and Viciedo at permanant positions because of the "log jam" in the infield at AA?
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:14 PM
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I believe he is leading AA in OBP, IIRC.
He's not even leading Birmingham and it's not even close.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:15 PM
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He's not even leading Birmingham and it's not even close.

I was talking Danks OBP .456, leading the Barrons.
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