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Old 05-21-2009, 01:25 PM
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  • 3 years/$52M (2010-12), plus 2013 club option
    • signed extension with San Diego 12/12/07
    • 10:$15M, 11:$16M, 12:$17M, 13:$22M club option ($4M buyout)
    • full no-trade clause for 2010, may block trades to 14 clubs in 2011 and 8 clubs in 2012 (also earns 10-and-5 rights in 2012)
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It shouldn't be a huge deal for the Sox to pick up the option. With the buyout, it's only an effective $18M.

Peavy will be 32 in 2013.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:26 PM
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  • 3 years/$52M (2010-12), plus 2013 club option
    • signed extension with San Diego 12/12/07
    • 10:$15M, 11:$16M, 12:$17M, 13:$22M club option ($4M buyout)
    • full no-trade clause for 2010, may block trades to 14 clubs in 2011 and 8 clubs in 2012 (also earns 10-and-5 rights in 2012)
    • award bonuses: $0.1M for WS MVP; $0.1M each for MVP or Cy Young ($50,000 for 2nd, $25,000 for 3rd); $50,000 for All Star starter; $25,000 for All Star selection; $50,000 each for LCS MVP, Gold Glove
I wonder what 14 teams those are ... seems like his reluctance to move to the AL could be more truth than rumor...
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:26 PM
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Isnt that some crazy number like 20 mil?
22, but it's only a net gain of 18 since the Sox would have to pay a $4M buyout to void the option.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:26 PM
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With Hawk already spewing the "company line" on no-trade clauses, I wouldn't be surprised if today's broadcast is a 3-hour softening of the blow that this won't happen.

And no, before everyone starts asking "how do you know what the company line is? Did you talk to someone? Etc, etc." No, it's just my opinion.

It's also my opinion that Peavy doesn't really want to play for the White Sox, that Peavy doesn't really want to come to the AL, and that if this were the Cubs, the deal would have been done already based on all the offseason chatter. Oh, and that it's very possible SD knew he wouldn't accept this and now can use the deal to their advantage somehow.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:27 PM
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:27 PM
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I hate these rumors. He needs to say yes or no so we can all move on in our day.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:29 PM
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:34 PM
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With Hawk already spewing the "company line" on no-trade clauses, I wouldn't be surprised if today's broadcast is a 3-hour softening of the blow that this won't happen.

And no, before everyone starts asking "how do you know what the company line is? Did you talk to someone? Etc, etc." No, it's just my opinion.

It's also my opinion that Peavy doesn't really want to play for the White Sox, that Peavy doesn't really want to come to the AL, and that if this were the Cubs, the deal would have been done already based on all the offseason chatter. Oh, and that it's very possible SD knew he wouldn't accept this and now can use the deal to their advantage somehow.
I'll give Peavy the benefit of the doubt and say that he is mulling over the decision and wants to talk with his family, etc. There are no mulligans when it comes to these decisions, so understandably, he'll need a little time.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:34 PM
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Sounds like there's room for a middle ground. Give him 14 instead of 8 teams in the out years of the NTC, double the buyout for the option year. But good news is that if he's making the option year demands, then he's either convinced the Sox would never accept or he's willing to come. And if he's willing to come, there's room for negotiation.

This sounds pretty much like every other trade of a star with an NTC - Deal is done. Player says "No thanks, not unless you pick up the option (or as the case may be depending ont he market & player, decline the team option)". Then it's all about the $$$$.
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http://www.670thescore.com/topic/pla...udioId=3740822

Andy Masur, voice of the Padres talks about how he would be very surprised if Jake approved a deal to any AL team.
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With Hawk already spewing the "company line" on no-trade clauses, I wouldn't be surprised if today's broadcast is a 3-hour softening of the blow that this won't happen.

And no, before everyone starts asking "how do you know what the company line is? Did you talk to someone? Etc, etc." No, it's just my opinion.

It's also my opinion that Peavy doesn't really want to play for the White Sox, that Peavy doesn't really want to come to the AL, and that if this were the Cubs, the deal would have been done already based on all the offseason chatter. Oh, and that it's very possible SD knew he wouldn't accept this and now can use the deal to their advantage somehow.
I agree with your opinion. All of it.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:39 PM
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With Hawk already spewing the "company line" on no-trade clauses, I wouldn't be surprised if today's broadcast is a 3-hour softening of the blow that this won't happen.

And no, before everyone starts asking "how do you know what the company line is? Did you talk to someone? Etc, etc." No, it's just my opinion.

It's also my opinion that Peavy doesn't really want to play for the White Sox, that Peavy doesn't really want to come to the AL, and that if this were the Cubs, the deal would have been done already based on all the offseason chatter. Oh, and that it's very possible SD knew he wouldn't accept this and now can use the deal to their advantage somehow.
If that no trade clause would transfer to the Sox in its entirety, it doesn't seem like that great of a deal for the Sox. Seeing how Peavy is equivocating over coming to a solid team, in a great city, raises a big "red flag". What happens if the Sox decide that keeping him and his huge contract doesn't fit into their future plans? They would be placed in the same position in which Padres management now finds itself, stuck with a guy that they have a hard time trading.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:40 PM
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Well I really hope Peavy isn't watching this game to base his decision off of because good god. Why would a pitcher want to come to a team that has the 3rd worst defense in the AL?
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:42 PM
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If Harrelson, the ultimate company mouthpiece and carnival barker, is truly whining about it on tv right now, the deal is dead. Everyone might as well get back to work now.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:42 PM
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If that no trade clause would transfer to the Sox in its entirety, it doesn't seem like that great of a deal for the Sox. Seeing how Peavy is equivocating over coming to a solid team, in a great city, raises a big "red flag". What happens if the Sox decide that keeping him and his huge contract doesn't fit into their future plans? They would be placed in the same position in which Padres management now finds itself, stuck with a guy that they have a hard time trading.

The good thing is that it is no longer a full NTC after 2010. So it gives us SOME flexibility. And he won't get 10/5 during this contract, so we don't have to worry about that either.

If we can get him without giving up Beckham or any vets, I don't see why we wouldn't.

It's not a lock. He hasn't been great this year, and he'd be moving to a much harder league/park. But this move would be a great one for KW/JR if they want a big upside, big splash.
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