Keith Law's Farm System Rankings

[Konerko05]

Originally Posted by Bucky F. Dent

Also, when asked to chose the best Sox prospect amongst a group that included Beckham, Danks, and Quentin, he selected Beckham.

Now, he may have dismissed Danks and Quentin from the list because he no longer considered them prospects, but if not, that is quite an endorsement of Beckham!

He definitely took into consideration Danks and Quentin are no longer prospects.

He said Beckham is a better prospect than Poreda and Flowers. I'm sure most people here would agree.

[KyWhiSoxFan]

Law ranked the teams 1 through 30 but provided little evidence on what he used to base his rankings. Other than mentioning a few players here and there, there was little substance.

If he had listed the top ten prospects from each organization and talked about those players' ability and upside, fine, but this report was all subjective. Whether true or not, how can you give it any credence? If all he wanted was some hot stove league talk, he accomplished that. And little else.

[Daver]

Kieth Law's opinion and a buck and a half will get me a cup of coffee at Speedway, just his opinion doesn't get me a damn thing.

[Save McCuddy's]

As far as I can see, we're in year 1 of totally revamping our farm system. They've made great strides so far and have added quality players to make each level more competitive. I'm willing to be patient -- not expecting breakthrough super stars just yet.

[SoxxoS]

I dont think I have seen Keith Law write anything positive about the white sox, ever.

[Domeshot17]

Originally Posted by Save McCuddy's

As far as I can see, we're in year 1 of totally revamping our farm system. They've made great strides so far and have added quality players to make each level more competitive. I'm willing to be patient -- not expecting breakthrough super stars just yet.

Disagree and agree at the same time. We have used our farm system for so long to make trades it is unreasonable to think we would have this amazing system, but it is very frustrating watch us blow first round pick after first round pick. How good would someone like Joba or Matt Garza look throwing for us instead of scrubs like Broadway and Mcculloch. While Poreda is a nice 50-60 ranked prospect with a strong mid rotation ceiling, the guy we passed up for him he is a top 5-10 prospect depending whos rankings you look at. The Farm could be a lot stronger than it is, but as long as we keep drafting on the cheap, knocking out the half of the draft represented by Boras and blowing picks on people like Kenny's son, we will NEVER have a top 10 farm.

[jabrch]

Originally Posted by SoxxoS

I dont think I have seen Keith Law write anything positive about the white sox, ever.

I wouldn't care if he did. There are a lot of experts who's opinion I value. His is not one of them.

[rdivaldi]

Originally Posted by Domeshot17

How good would someone like Joba or Matt Garza look throwing for us instead of scrubs like Broadway and Mcculloch. While Poreda is a nice 50-60 ranked prospect with a strong mid rotation ceiling, the guy we passed up for him he is a top 5-10 prospect depending whos rankings you look at. The Farm could be a lot stronger than it is, but as long as we keep drafting on the cheap, knocking out the half of the draft represented by Boras and blowing picks on people like Kenny's son, we will NEVER have a top 10 farm.

1. The Twins thought so highly of Garza, that they traded him.
2. Can we quit anointing Porcello? The Tigers paid a king's ransom for a high school pitcher. Not smart. It may pay off for them, but it is just as likely that he will blow out his arm/shoulder like many high schoolers do.
3. On the cheap?
4. How many people does Borass have in every draft? 2-3-4? Pretty easy to build up a farm system without dealing with that assclown.
5. We will have a top 10 farm system again, it's cyclical.

[champagne030]

Originally Posted by jabrch

I wouldn't care if he did. There are a lot of experts who's opinion I value. His is not one of them.

He was a GM. You are an internet GM. Do not question his views.

[champagne030]

Originally Posted by rdivaldi

1. The Twins thought so highly of Garza, that they traded him.
2. Can we quit anointing Porcello? The Tigers paid a king's ransom for a high school pitcher. Not smart. It may pay off for them, but it is just as likely that he will blow out his arm/shoulder like many high schoolers do.
3. On the cheap?
4. How many people does Borass have in every draft? 2-3-4? Pretty easy to build up a farm system without dealing with that assclown.
5. We will have a top 10 farm system again, it's cyclical.

I'm not bitching at the move, but didn't we just sign a 19 year-old to a $10M contract? And he's got a lot more questions than Porcello.

[sullythered]

Originally Posted by champagne030

He was a GM.

No, he was not.

[Domeshot17]

Originally Posted by rdivaldi

1. The Twins thought so highly of Garza, that they traded him.
2. Can we quit anointing Porcello? The Tigers paid a king's ransom for a high school pitcher. Not smart. It may pay off for them, but it is just as likely that he will blow out his arm/shoulder like many high schoolers do.
3. On the cheap?
4. How many people does Borass have in every draft? 2-3-4? Pretty easy to build up a farm system without dealing with that assclown.
5. We will have a top 10 farm system again, it's cyclical.

Even if Garza didn't turn the corner in Tampa, he still may have pitched more productive innings in his Minny Career then Broadway and McCullough will in their Career.

Porcello has to give us a reason not to anoint him. The kids has been amazing since joining the Tigers farm. Yes he may blow out his arm, but he is so smart for his years. The reason his K's were down this year is he was afraid of killing his arm and learned to be a pitcher and getting ground balls. So he isn't just pounding fastballs, but using his pitches really efficiently. I guess it stings for me because he was a guy I was really high on when he hit the draft. It was clear he was a special talent, and for the money we spent on Uribe and Erstad in 2007 we could have had him.

Yes, we draft cheap. We consistently spend in the bottom 1/3 of all teams in the draft. I am not saying we draft every above slot player on the board, but there is no reason we should not be spending in the top 1/2.

Because we can't work with Boras we constantly pass on top talent that falls in the higher rounds. His job is to get the best deals he can for his players, while I do not like him or his ethics, if I was a player I surely would want him to represent me.

And we need to make major strides to get back in the top 10. It is hard to judge a draft for a few years. Some are really high on last years draft, some are really down, I am kind of in the middle on it. We will see.

[rdivaldi]

Originally Posted by champagne030

I'm not bitching at the move, but didn't we just sign a 19 year-old to a $10M contract? And he's got a lot more questions than Porcello.

You are correct, and I think that's it's a risky move. I hope that Daylan is as smart a signing as Alexei.

[rdivaldi]

Originally Posted by Domeshot17

Even if Garza didn't turn the corner in Tampa, he still may have pitched more productive innings in his Minny Career then Broadway and McCullough will in their Career.

Porcello has to give us a reason not to anoint him. The kids has been amazing since joining the Tigers farm. Yes he may blow out his arm, but he is so smart for his years. The reason his K's were down this year is he was afraid of killing his arm and learned to be a pitcher and getting ground balls. So he isn't just pounding fastballs, but using his pitches really efficiently. I guess it stings for me because he was a guy I was really high on when he hit the draft. It was clear he was a special talent, and for the money we spent on Uribe and Erstad in 2007 we could have had him.

Yes, we draft cheap. We consistently spend in the bottom 1/3 of all teams in the draft. I am not saying we draft every above slot player on the board, but there is no reason we should not be spending in the top 1/2.

Because we can't work with Boras we constantly pass on top talent that falls in the higher rounds. His job is to get the best deals he can for his players, while I do not like him or his ethics, if I was a player I surely would want him to represent me.

And we need to make major strides to get back in the top 10. It is hard to judge a draft for a few years. Some are really high on last years draft, some are really White Sox Interactive Forums - Reply to Topicdown, I am kind of in the middle on it. We will see.

Garza did nothing for Minnesota, so really what's the use?

Porcello is a kid and hasn't pitched above A ball, I'm not anointing him and neither should anybody else. We've been hearing about Adam Miller for what, 4 years? He was a sure thing and the only sure thing about him is that he's going to be on the DL every year.

We have been somewhat cheap in the draft, some of that was drafting late, some of that was not paying over slot after the 1st round.

Until someone does a study that proves that Boras draftees = World Series championships, screw him.

We could jump up in the rankings very quickly, you never know what could happen. We exploded from an also-ran in 1999 to #1 in 2000.

[Daver]

Originally Posted by champagne030

I'm not bitching at the move, but didn't we just sign a 19 year-old to a $10M contract? And he's got a lot more questions than Porcello.

He's not a pitcher, HS pitchers are a complete crapshoot, position players are more of a calculated gamble. In this case you are drawing to a good hand, Cuban players play at their highest level early, and against decent competition.