MiLB's Top 50 prospects

Originally Posted by champagne030

No.

I'm pretty sure his fastball has good sink on it.

[Craig Grebeck]

Originally Posted by champagne030

No.

Lie.

[oeo]

Originally Posted by champagne030

No.

That's why he was drafted.

[SoxNation05]

Aaron Poreda's celler is not Matt Thornton. Matt Thornton has done it in the big show. Whoever said that Poreda's fastball has no sink is wrong. Do you honestly think we are dumb enough to draft a one pitch pitcher who has a straight fastball? Poreda throws a sinking fastball with great precision. Make your jokes but we're not that dumb. Right now Poreda's slider is just an allusion to his fastball.

[champagne030]

Originally Posted by btrain929

I'm pretty sure his fastball has good sink on it.

Correct - good sink. Not "massive".

Originally Posted by Craig Grebeck

Lie.

See above.

Originally Posted by oeo

That's why he was drafted.

Wrong again.

[oeo]

Originally Posted by champagne030

Correct - good sink. Not "massive".

If it was semantics that you disagreed with, then why didn't you say that in your original post?

Wrong again.

Yes, his fastball and its natural sink is why he was drafted.

[Konerko05]

Originally Posted by oeo

If it was semantics that you disagreed with, then why didn't you say that in your original post?

Right you think he just would have said, "While he has good sink on his fastball, I don't consider it to be 'massive.'"

Champagne seems to have some sort of agenda against Poreda.

[champagne030]

Originally Posted by Konerko05

Right you think he just would have said, "While he has good sink on his fastball, I don't consider it to be 'massive.'"

Champagne seems to have some sort of agenda against Poreda.

I answered his question of "doesn't his fastball have massive movement/sink?". The answer is no.

And it's not like I trashed the pitch. I've already stated in this thread it's a plus pitch.

[munchman33]

Originally Posted by Craig Grebeck

I'm sorry, what the hell do you mean by "knocking on the door"? Rick has thrown 125 professional innings, none of which were above A+ ball.

And how on earth is Poreda looking like a middle reliever?

Porcello is expected to make his pro debut at the end of the upcoming season.

I've yet to read a scouting report on Poreda that doesn't mention he's significantly more likely to end up in a bullpen than in a rotation. If you have one, I'd be willing to take it into consideration. But even things I read on the Sox website mention this. Heck, even Kenny has said it.

[GAsoxfan]

Originally Posted by LoveYourSuit

So no Sox on the top 50?

Nope, but Poreda was mentioned in the "Just Missed the Cut" piece. I think they ranked him 56th.

[CleeFan101]

Anyone know when BA release their top100 prospect list for upcoming season.

[PalehosePlanet]

Originally Posted by CleeFan101

Anyone know when BA release their top100 prospect list for upcoming season.

March.

Originally Posted by munchman33

I've yet to read a scouting report on Poreda that doesn't mention he's significantly more likely to end up in a bullpen than in a rotation. If you have one, I'd be willing to take it into consideration. But even things I read on the Sox website mention this. Heck, even Kenny has said it.

I think this is more of a situation where he keeps getting mentioned as a bullpen guy because that's where he can make the sooner impact on the major league squad. We don't have many, if any, internal options jumping off the page to fill Boone's spot that has been vacated. But as far as SP's go, we have at least 3: Richard, Marquez, and Broadway (I don't believe Broadway is an option, but others seem to think so). I don't think him continually being mentioned in the bullpen are statements discussing his "ceiling" or possible role in 2-3 years.

[fozzy]

Originally Posted by Cognation

From what it seems, Flowers will be at B or DH and of course you draft for talent not need.

even if you positive Flowers is going to be your catcher for the next 15 years... thats the one position you always draft no matter what you can always trade a good catcher prospect for value.

people need to get over the Porcello vs Poreda argument. drafting Porcello was never an option... right or wrong the white sox as an organization do not draft over slot in the first round. we were never going to draft Porcello in the late first round and give him top 5 money. that has nothing to do with Poreda as a draft pick. the simple matter of fact is right now his floor as a prospect is a set-up man/ closer with a sinking fastball in the high 90's... with a ceiling of a #2 or 3 starter if his slider develops as a plus pitch or they can get him to throw a cutter. any organization would be happy to draft him in the late 20's in the draft

[canOcorn]

Originally Posted by fozzy

that has nothing to do with Poreda as a draft pick. the simple matter of fact is right now his floor as a prospect is a set-up man/ closer with a sinking fastball in the high 90's... with a ceiling of a #2 or 3 starter if his slider develops as a plus pitch or they can get him to throw a cutter. any organization would be happy to draft him in the late 20's in the draft

Poreda's floor is not a closer. At least not a serviceable closer.