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Old 11-13-2008, 11:23 PM
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Beckham 2-5. Now at .403.
Impressive. I don't know if I'm get overly pumped about him.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:25 PM
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Impressive. I don't know if I'm get overly pumped about him.
I agree. This is against high end AAA competition basically, right? Given his history of already having played against very good competition in college (equivalent to the stuff Alexei faced in Cuba?) is it to early to see what he can do next spring against major league caliber pitching?
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:01 AM
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I agree. This is against high end AAA competition basically, right? Given his history of already having played against very good competition in college (equivalent to the stuff Alexei faced in Cuba?) is it to early to see what he can do next spring against major league caliber pitching?
I too find myself (possibly overly) excited about this kid. Has he seen any time at 3rd base? or would it be possible for him to move there of Alexei move to third (his natural position in Cuba if I'm right?)? It probably way too early to speculate about ANY of this but if we have a Beckham, Alexei, Viciedo INF in the spring I will be excited for the 09 season....and about 5 seasons to come.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:22 AM
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I too find myself (possibly overly) excited about this kid. Has he seen any time at 3rd base? or would it be possible for him to move there of Alexei move to third (his natural position in Cuba if I'm right?)? It probably way too early to speculate about ANY of this but if we have a Beckham, Alexei, Viciedo INF in the spring I will be excited for the 09 season....and about 5 seasons to come.
Alexei's natural position in Cuba, I'm pretty sure, was SS.

I'm excited for the kid too, but I'd rather him get some more seasoning and instruction in the minors. Let guys who have been here longer and are more MLB ready (Getz, Fields) get their shot first. If they fall on their face and Beckham continues to tear it up in A/AA, then maybe he'll get his shot.

I personally don't want to see Beckham in '09, because that means Getz and/or Fields are doing their job and he's not needed.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:28 AM
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I completely agree, I would like Beckham to see additional time in the minors.....but the prospect of Fields and Getz in the infield doesn't exactly scream World Series Champs to me. I hope I am proved wrong, but from what I've seen so far Fields is nothing more than a band-aid until we can develop a real third baseman.
On a side note, I believe you are right about Alexei and his natural position. I struggle to remember but he played third a game this year? If I recall correctly nothing spectacular but nothing heinous either.
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:04 AM
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On a side note, I believe you are right about Alexei and his natural position. I struggle to remember but he played third a game this year? If I recall correctly nothing spectacular but nothing heinous either.
I think it was only for 1 inning.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:39 AM
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I too find myself (possibly overly) excited about this kid. Has he seen any time at 3rd base? or would it be possible for him to move there of Alexei move to third (his natural position in Cuba if I'm right?)? It probably way too early to speculate about ANY of this but if we have a Beckham, Alexei, Viciedo INF in the spring I will be excited for the 09 season....and about 5 seasons to come.
Beckham has only played SS and 2B in the fall league. I don't think the Sox have any plans to move him to 3rd.

If they sign Viciedo, it could be him, Ramirez, and Beckham in the infield for a long time.
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:28 PM
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Peter Gammons, citing scouts and "Chicago's minor league people" think Beckham will end up in the majors in June as the starting 2nd baseman.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/...=gammons_peter
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Peter Gammons, citing scouts and "Chicago's minor league people" think Beckham will end up in the majors in June as the starting 2nd baseman.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/...=gammons_peter
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Old 11-16-2008, 10:58 AM
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God I hope not.
Why? If scouts from outside the organization as well as our own minor league people think he's ready, what's the harm? He was a three-year starter at Georgia who has had quite a bit of success with wood bats. He's certainly got a better chance of being an impact player than either Getz or Nix do.
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:05 AM
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I agree. This is against high end AAA competition basically, right?
No it isn't. Teams use the AFL for a variety of reasons, and send players of all kinds, some teams send AAA players they want to showcase for trade reasons, some send recent high draft picks for an extended workout, it's a true mix that would not represent top competition.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:11 PM
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Why? If scouts from outside the organization as well as our own minor league people think he's ready, what's the harm? He was a three-year starter at Georgia who has had quite a bit of success with wood bats. He's certainly got a better chance of being an impact player than either Getz or Nix do.
1) Because if Beckham is up with the team, that means both Getz and Nix have failed. Getz has faced better competition than Beckham and has done fairly well. He deserves a shot over a guy with 58 Low-A minor league at-bats.
2) Most of us agree that we have rushed prospects through the system too fast. If Beckham comes up and fails, that's yet another example.

In my opinion, both Getz/Nix would have to be absolutely brutal (bat .150 over 250 AB's or something) and Beckham would have to be tearing up High-A or AA to even consider this an idea. I think this would be a high-risk, low-reward situation since Beckham hasn't faced anything close to MLB pitching yet.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:16 PM
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1) Because if Beckham is up with the team, that means both Getz and Nix have failed. Getz has faced better competition than Beckham and has done fairly well. He deserves a shot over a guy with 58 Low-A minor league at-bats.
2) Most of us agree that we have rushed prospects through the system too fast. If Beckham comes up and fails, that's yet another example.

In my opinion, both Getz/Nix would have to be absolutely brutal (bat .150 over 250 AB's or something) and Beckham would have to be tearing up High-A or AA to even consider this an idea. I think this would be a high-risk, low-reward situation since Beckham hasn't faced anything close to MLB pitching yet.
Beckham will begin in AA.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:30 PM
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Beckham will begin in AA.
Is that your guess, or did they come out and say that officially?
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:37 PM
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Is that your guess, or did they come out and say that officially?
My guess, but I think it's likely.
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